Agreed - when you live in a neighborhood where there have been crimes burying your head in the sand won't help anything.

Still waiting for proof positive GZ was following Trayvon and an answer to my question if Trayvon was scared of the creepy ass cracker why didn't he run home and out of harms way???

I never heard anything about his arms being pinned. The side on which he carried his gun is irrelevant. My father was a police officer. He was right handed but always carried his gun on this left side with the handle pointed toward the front. It was easier to withdraw it from the holster when seated in the police cruiser.

First, NOT GUILTY would be my vote.

Second, Why follow this kid? Well, he called 911 and said there was suspicious activity (or to that nature). He is a want to be cop (remember) so--he wants to catch the bad guys (or whom he thought was a bad guy). So follows. Was he scared? Nope (gun) on right hip. Not sure why if he is left handed. Clearly self defense. Yep- bit off more than he can chew and got in a situation which left a child dead.

Third, a friend posted on my facebook. Young woman (white) killed for tip money by three (african american men) charged. Did you know that? Did you hear that in the news? Is there a march? Any key speakers on her behalf? Was she profiled?? See link:

Woman killed for tip money, 2 men charged, 1 at large - Post-Tribune

I just think this whole thing is sad. Sad someone (white/black or whatever race) lost his life. Sorry for the loss to family. Sorry for the man who shot a child and has to live with this the rest of his life. Sad it has turned a country into a racial issue when clearly- with the "hoodie"- did he even know what race "suspect" was when he started to follow him?

Only chickens I see in this story is John Good and his neighbors who hid in their houses while someone screamed for help. I am sorry and I am no self proclaimed hero, but there is no way I would not go out and attempt to break up a fight of two people fighting 10-15 feet from my back door.

I'm from Gainesville, not a place known for violence.
But re the scene you describe, my son went into his front yard, 30 feet from the door and broke up a fight on the street where the loser was critically in danger of being killed.
I am proud of him for following his gut but would have screamed at him to not get into it if I had been there.

Very sad and very tragic. I read the news article in its entirety as basically it's exactly what my husband and I were saying to each other while watching the prosecutor "close"........that these things happen much more frequently to white folks and no one protests, marches in the streets or has special advocates for the white victims of black crimes. It's quite obvious. It shouldn't turn into a racial issue. The police didn't even want to arrest George in the beginning.............thanks for sharing the link.

Not only did the neighbors do nothing to stop the fight, but then one of them found it more important to take pictures of the scratches on the back of his head instead of administering care to a 17 year old teenager dying with his face in the grass. Thankful I don't live near any of them.

Excellent post. It sounds like you speak from true experience......

Why would there be marches and key speakers? Arrests were made. Sorry, I do not see the correlation between the two stories.

Maybe because three black men killed an innocent white woman? I don't know--maybe that is just as important as one man defending himself?

Sure, it is every bit as important. But in the case of Zimmerman it is self defense and people are taking sides depending on who they think was the aggressor. This is not the case with Jacqueline Gardner. Maybe I am missing the point of the comparison.

I guess it is heartbreaking that there was a life lost in both cases. One seems to get more attention (for whatever reason) and the other--not many are aware of in this community. However- most everyone is aware of Zimmerman Case. Yet- the outcome was the same. A life was taken...both should have equal coverage in at least the news media. :read:

Good point.

This case is an entirely different issue.

Crime is crime. White on black...the end of the world. Black on black...ho hum. Black on white....yawn? It makes me sick there are these differences and I just can't stand the race baiters like Sharpton and The "Reverend" Jackson. People are people, victims are victims.

Not sure that is fair - you weren't there and can't judge other people's actions - only one Higher Being has that right.

I agree "but"
 

There is simply no evidence to support a murder charge. No one saw anything !!! What does concern me is the media's obsession with an agenda nearly pushing for riots. In todays Daily Sun is and article " police ready for riots ". I recall attending some classes years ago where there was a presentation. If a person is trying to walk a tightrope and a crown below the walker chants over and over "you are going to fall", guess what, the walker will usually fall. So here we have the media in a sense saying over and over " there's going to be riots", I can assure you that is exactly what will happen if Zimmerman is acquited>>>>>

TM
 

Just to set the record straight, TM was NOT a CHILD.
TM was a 17 y/o punk, who had a history of violence,
and numerous run in's with authorities.

Don't try to make him a good guy.barf:cus:

This rioting stuff is ridiculous. I want to be part of a riot over court decisions I don't like where I feel there has been an injustice done to me. NOT! Maybe someday the people that riot will "learn to live with it" but I doubt it. Human emotions can be very fragile and volatile and hard to control.

Amen! My thoughts exactly! It also makes me sick to think that people have not changed and thousands of killings keep going on & on & on !!!

According to Florida state law, anyone under the age of 18 years old is considered a child.

You seem to have an issue with Jesse Jackson's title of Reverend. You chose to place the term inside quotations as if it is phony and by implication he is lying by using the title. You have no difficulty giving him your own pejorative title. Please edify me about your expertise in the "correct" use of Reverend and why the Reverend Jackson does not deserve to have it used without derision by you. He has been an ordained Baptist minister since 1968.

Not to worry about any rioting. Gov Rick Scott is fired up and ready to go against any rioting, real or perceived.

Boy Howdy.

I don't know who should be called Reverend, Most Reverend and/or Your
Excellency or Holy or any of that. In my very humble opinion some seem to deserve it more than others.

There are a lot of shysters wearing robes and a lot of good folks trying to figure it all out.

I know what I think. But I wouldn't try to change anyone's mind on that issue. It is too personal and way too close to our nerves.

I sure hope that neighbors in The Villages would have done something to attend to a victim laying on the grass before taking pictures of the other guy's bloody nose and scratches on his bald head.

Zimmerman sure is a despicable excuse for a human being. Overweight cop wannabee (who could not get accepted as a cop) bully who cannot back up his bravado without a gun.

Why do I get in these debates?

And what would you do, other than contaminate the crime scene? Also, we get it...you dislike George Zimmerman. There is probably no need to keep posting your negative feelings for him, over and over again.

How do you know this - give me some proof - not speculation.

How about 'cause he loves to race bait???

And it has been a very lucrative for him. He has a estimated net worth of $10 million. I wonder how much of that is from his preaching of the gospel?

How do I know what? I said I hoped Villagers would see if they could provide aid to Martin. If you see an injured person, that is what you do.

As for my Zimmerman phrase, what part is not true?

To entertain me when your goat gets gotten?
:popcorn:

re your hatred...
What is despicable about:
being overweight?
wanting to be a cop?
being brave?
carrying a gun?

I am taken aback that any of those qualities or the combination would provoke you to hatred. The last three are virtues in my book and hating overweight people these days would necessitate having very few friends.

From what I've watched on the television there should have never been any charges brought in this case

Posing a few simple questions that I hope someone might answer...

1. How many posters who traditionally vote to the "left" of issues are or have supported Zimmerman ?

2. How many posters who traditionally vote to the "right" of issues are or have NOT supported Zimmerman ?

3. Has anyone changed their feelings on this case since the media of our choice instructed us on how to feel. From guilty to innocent or vice versa.

How long do you all predict the jury will be out?

From the evidence presented Zimmerman is not a racist wanna be cop as I first imagined based upon reports from the mainstream media. I now see him as a 1/8 black, mixed race hispanic concerned citizen, trying to be a credit to his community, helping his neighbors reduce the crime in their neighborhood, a working man, going to school to try to get ahead in life. He is clearly innocent regardless of whatever the jurors find. They are under enormous political pressure from we all know who, as are the judge and prosecution team.

Martin, I now see not as a hunted down 12 year old innocent child as depicted by the mainstream media and the race baiters but as a bus driver beating, pot smoking burglar who also happened to be very disrespectful of women judging from his texts.

The prosecutor's "case" was essentially unsubstantiated garbage based upon emotion, speculation and even hysteria. The defense was all about finding out what the facts are, what actually happened based upon evidence.

I just hope the jurors do not offer Zimmerman up as a sacrificial lamb, saddling him with a lesser included charge pulled out of their hat by the prosecution team at the last minute to appease the race baiters, mainstream media and those of their ilk.

Not guilty.

I think they should reach a decision tonight.

I believe the quicker they come back the more favorable for George Zimmerman. And I pray they don't end up as a hung jury - no one should have to go through this again. It needs to be resolved one way or the other.

In the beginning I believed all the media hype and thought Zimmerman was guilty, I now believe NOT GUILTY.