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Chi-Town 08-11-2014 02:54 PM

Kill them all, and the world is coming to an end. I love this thread.

Madelaine Amee 08-11-2014 04:08 PM

I feel somewhat better about the conditions in Iraq tonight. I just saw on TV that the Coptic (have I got that right) people have been led off the mountain to safety by the Kurds and some of our really, really good guys! Have not heard much about ISIS, can only hope we are bombing them into the ground! Yes, I'm violent, but if you want to run around beheading and crucifying people I want to see you obliterated - you, your children, your wives, any relatives you have. Unfortunately I also read that several hundred children have already died from dehydration. This is a terrible world and all in the name of religion.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-11-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 921893)
I feel somewhat better about the conditions in Iraq tonight. I just saw on TV that the Coptic (have I got that right) people have been led off the mountain to safety by the Kurds and some of our really, really good guys! Have not heard much about ISIS, can only hope we are bombing them into the ground! Yes, I'm violent, but if you want to run around beheading and crucifying people I want to see you obliterated - you, your children, your wives, any relatives you have. Unfortunately I also read that several hundred children have already died from dehydration. This is a terrible world and all in the name of religion.

The problem with a terrorist group is that there is nothing to bomb. Yes, we can make some surgical air strikes when they are in a specific location like this, and kill a few of them. But for the most part, these people are spread all over the world. Some may even be walking among us. Unlike any other conflict in history, there is no central government or land to bomb into the ground. Don't forget, Iraq is a country that we helped set up. They are now allies and we are over there at the request of the Iraqi government. We can't very well help them out by bombing Iraq into the ground.

Shimpy 08-11-2014 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 921412)
Your should also read “Company Man” by John Rizzo. It's a very interesting book. Rizzo is actually a very patriotic guy so no criticism of him is intended but the fact that everything of significance had to be run thru the CIA lawyers is dismaying.

Thanks, that book is on my list to read as recommended by one of the books I just read,.......Delta Force.....Inside Delta Force......Lone Survivor.......American Sniper....Seal Team 6......and Service, A Navy Seal at War.

sunnyatlast 08-11-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 920618)
It is a mess of gigantic proportions and, in my opinion, was caused by our greed for their OIL. I am very glad I don't have to make the decisions about how to handle it. Al Qaeda were bad enough, now these crazies appear ...............

"OUR" "greed for their OIL"???

How Guns and Oil Net ISIS $1 Million Per Day

"Every startup needs financing and a market to succeed. So, too, for the Islamist extremist group ISIS—or simply the Islamic State, as it calls itself—whose fighters stormed across the Syrian border into Iraq in June and seized the country’s second-biggest city, Mosul, before moving on to the outskirts of Baghdad.

Now ISIS, an outgrowth of the U.S. military’s deadly Sunni foes in Iraq a decade ago, is the tycoon of the jihadi world. Having taken over oilfields in war-torn northeastern Syria last year and reportedly earned tens of millions selling antiquities, it landed a giant infusion of cash by seizing about $425 million from a Mosul bank.

But ISIS’s real upside lies in exploiting one precious commodity: oil. The group nabbed three more fields in Iraq, tapping into pipelines and looting oil storage facilities in its new territory. Then it filled trucks and sold crude for the cut-rate price of $26 a barrel to Iraqi traders, who resold it to Kurdish smugglers at a 100% markup.

ISIS quickly developed its smugglers’ network—to which it now sells about 100 truckfuls of oil daily for around $9,000 each—netting nearly $1 million a day, according to truckers and officials who detailed the bonanza to the industry newsletter Iraq Oil Report. Not bad for a group with just about 10,000 fighters. Said one Kurdish intelligence officer: “This is a very profitable business.”

How guns and oil net ISIS $1 million a day - Fortune

It seems to me that OUR presence and protection of Iraq's oil fields would have prevented ISIS from becoming so well funded!

sunnyatlast 08-11-2014 06:41 PM

And who is crucifying and butchering children "in the name of Religion"???

[Anglican Communion News Service] The five-year-old son of a founding member of Baghdad’s Anglican church was cut in half during an attack by the Islamic State1 on the Christian town of Qaraqosh.

Anglican Vicar of Baghdad: ‘Child I baptized cut in half by ISIS’

Chi-Town 08-11-2014 11:00 PM

The Iraqui president replaced the Iraqi prime minister, but he refuses to go. He has his militants in the street. So now it's a standoff situation. And where is Saddam Hussein when you need him. I dunno, some militants burned his tomb a few days ago.

TexaninVA 08-12-2014 06:26 PM

The leader of ISIS, aka ISIL, is "Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi" or "al-Baghdadi" for short. One of his favorite books is a treatise known as "The Management of Savagery," which given what has been going on recently is an aptly titled book.

This book has also been described as "Che Guevara warmed over jihadis" while another person has described the book as “the seven highly effective habits of jihadi leaders.”

Some takeaway points are this new Radical Islamic leader is serious, well-organized, deadly, and diligently works at improving his organization's skill levels in the art of jihad. This is not some mystic hiding out in a cave.


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