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kittygilchrist 09-01-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 931387)
Sounds just like what the Americans Christians did to the American Indians ----- also the European Christians explores did to the heathens in South America and elsewhere

I trust this post is meant as a reminder that bearing the name of Christian doesn't make you one, and not as a justification for beheading Christians for their belief in Jesus.

sunnyatlast 09-01-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 931447)
I saw a news piece last night on NBC Evening News that said much ISIS recruiting is being done in MINNEAPOLIS. There is a very large Somalia population there.

Who would have ever thought that a city associated with Swedes and Norwegians would now have a very large population of Somalians and a part of the city called "Little Mogadishu"?

1. We who grew up with Swedes and Norwegians know they don't sit around talking and emoting about problems and blaming somebody else. Instead, they get up earlier and go to work harder and longer, to pay their bills and buy necessities with cash.

2. Look at their congressman sworn into office on the Koran, and their senator who's livelihood was being on stage and camera as a comedian.

janmcn 09-01-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 931505)
1. We who grew up with Swedes and Norwegians know they don't sit around talking and emoting about problems and blaming somebody else. Instead, they get up earlier and go to work harder and longer, to pay their bills and buy necessities with cash.

2. Look at their congressman sworn into office on the Koran, and their senator who's livelihood was being on stage and camera as a comedian.


When a congressman is a Muslim, it is perfectly appropriate to be sworn in using the Koran.

Its too bad that congress can't interrupt their five week vacation to return to Washington and debate this very serious matter.

buggyone 09-01-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 931505)
1. We who grew up with Swedes and Norwegians know they don't sit around talking and emoting about problems and blaming somebody else. Instead, they get up earlier and go to work harder and longer, to pay their bills and buy necessities with cash.

2. Look at their congressman sworn into office on the Koran, and their senator who's livelihood was being on stage and camera as a comedian.

Yah sure, I just have to wonder about Minnesotans sometimes.

Of course, there still is freedom of religion so the Koran is definitely appropriate for a Muslim to use instead of a Bible when being sworn into office. A Mormon would use the Book of Mormon, wouldn't they?

They also elected a professional wrestler as their governor, didn't they?

The Swedes and Norskis of Minnesota work harder and longer and pay cash more than other Americans? Never heard that before.

I would think the Somalians would be so far out of their hot, desert environment in Minneapolis that it may help to contribute to some wanting to return to fight on their home continent.

kittygilchrist 09-01-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 931515)
Yah sure, I just have to wonder about Minnesotans sometimes.

They also elected a professional wrestler as their governor, didn't they?

The Swedes and Norskis of Minnesota work harder and longer and pay cash more than other Americans? Never heard that before.

I would think the Somalians would be so far out of their hot, desert environment in Minneapolis that it may help to contribute to some wanting to return to fight on their home continent.

Provocative and annoyingly out of touch with the topic.

buggyone 09-01-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 931516)
Provocative and annoyingly out of touch with the topic.

The topic is regarding ISIS being a major threat. Minneapolis is a major recruiting ground for them due to the large Somalian population.

Who knows, maybe the harsh climate is a factor.

The other facts about Minnesota were in response to another post.

Nothing provacative.

tedquick 09-01-2014 10:47 AM

With one exception all of the posts so far have pointed out the dangers that face the world (and most personally to all of us, America herself) from the group known as ISIS. Barry, in clear terms, pointed out the true dangers of an ostrich’s life. I offer for additional consideration the following website that is purported to have been written by a Mr. Paul Marek back in 2007;

https://www.facebook.com/notes/don-w...70485476374673

“Edmund Burke said it best: ‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing’.”

We must not be silent any longer!

buggyone 09-01-2014 10:51 AM

Yes, we all know that ISIS is a huge threat. What concrete ideas does anyone have to resolve that threat?

tedquick 09-01-2014 11:03 AM

Vote in November
 
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 931531)
Yes, we all know that ISIS is a huge threat. What concrete ideas does anyone have to resolve that threat?

It seems to me that not only is the administration ineffective (and in fact dangerous to our way of life) but so is most of Washington. They are either asleep or part of the problem. We voters must become informed. We must then find and take to the polls at least one other who stayed home in 2012. We the People, have the power, but we must use it. Our power can be utilized by informing others and then going to the polls this November.

Madelaine Amee 09-01-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 931537)
It seems to me that not only is the administration ineffective (and in fact dangerous to our way of life) but so is most of Washington. They are either asleep or part of the problem. We voters must become informed. We must then find and take to the polls at least one other who stayed home in 2012. We the People, have the power, but we must use it. Our power can be utilized by informing others and then going to the polls this November.

IMHO - unfortunately we are like sheep. We blindly vote for the same 'ol, same 'ol every two and then four years. We have the power, we just don't use it.

sunnyatlast 09-01-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 931512)
When a congressman is a Muslim, it is perfectly appropriate to be sworn in using the Koran.

Its too bad that congress can't interrupt their five week vacation to return to Washington and debate this very serious matter.

To return to the point, when a congressman is a muslim and gets to the swearing in ceremony, it means that there is a huge constituency of muslim voters in the district. Which would explain the expanding muslim population buggyone brought up regarding Minneapolis as if it were surprising.

Nobody said it was "inappropriate" to be sworn in on the Koran. It's the first time it's happened in this nation, and therefore became noteworthy and evidential of the population who elected him.

buggyone 09-01-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 931541)
IMHO - unfortunately we are like sheep. We blindly vote for the same 'ol, same 'ol every two and then four years. We have the power, we just don't use it.

Absolutely right! That is the problem of those voters who vote their straight party ticket no matter who is running for election/re-election.

Vote for the person and not for the party.

sunnyatlast 09-01-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 931547)
Absolutely right! That is the problem of those voters who vote their straight party ticket no matter who is running for election/re-election.

Vote for the person and not for the party.

AMEN!!! Both sides are guilty of the blindfolded straight-party line vote.

And actually, when it comes to our nation's security and safety from foreign and domestic enemies, we need to all be on the same "side" in acknowledging:

a) who the enemy IS; and

b) that we are all on the same side as "The Exterminated" when we allow them to destroy us first.

redwitch 09-01-2014 11:47 AM

Sadly, the only solution I can see is a military strike with a lot of innocent deaths as collateral damage. It would mean air strikes targeting every known stronghold of the IS. Troops on the ground could not do the job. World opinion would destroy us -- the sanctions against the US would be astronomical.

It truly scares me that this is the only solution I have heard that seems to have a possibility of success. We drove al Qaida into the hills with ground troops and selective air strikes. It did in fact weaken al Qaida. However, in return we got IS. It seems that every time we act proactively and weaken one group, another, worse gang comes along.

We once had a chance to make a huge difference in the Middle East. We could have educated the people, helped them have free and open elections, built hospitals and so on. Instead, our government chose to support dictators so big businesses could profit. Now, we have a region where illiteracy is rampant. These people truly believe America is the Great Satan. Their Imans have taught them to hate, they've never been taught the beauty of the Koran and have no way to read it themselves.

So, as far as I can see, we have no way to right the wrongs of the past. I can't think of a way to stop the hate of today other than annihilation and that just seems to help start another, even more radical group.

kittygilchrist 09-01-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 931531)
Yes, we all know that ISIS is a huge threat. What concrete ideas does anyone have to resolve that threat?

I am going to Israel in a few days to pray against evil. I am not unaware of the situation, nor afraid.


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