Too many burros

I used to question why my father admonished me to never discuss politics nor religion! Now I understand why!

Where is the Christian outrage against the minister who very recently advocated penning up gays and lesbians with an electric fence and making them die off? In other words, this is Christians advocating Genocide in the name of God.

The original poster asked what you people thought about Islam. In return he got a comparison between Christianity and islam all through the ages.

So since Christianity was brought into the subject i need to address it also.
christianity and hence Christians have evolved over the centuries. However we can not make that same assertion with islam. Islam nations are all still tribal and hence the stark contrast between its people as respects the Koran.

When arts made a mockery of christian symols using animal dong and presenting it at Metropolitan Museum of Art christian didn't march in the streets destroying property, threatening lives as did Musli when the Swedish newspaper published a cartoon concerning Mohmand....just saying

I grew up Lutheran and attended a church school until grade 8. At that time the church taught people to be good Christians and to worship God. There was no political agenda. Now it seems that most all religions have a political agenda. Islam is one of the worst in my view. When you start to force your religious beliefs on others throught intimidation, violence or the political process, I believe you have crossed a line that our country's founders saw as a threat to our freedom. I served in our country's military service for 32 years to protect your right to believe what ever you like but do not try to tell me what to believe or you will be in for the fight of your life. Run your own life and leave other people to run theirs.

Not unless you want to have a different conversation.

The God of the jews, christians and muslims is the God of Abraham.

Go figure

What is the essence and reality of the human being, the universe, and all things?

What do they mean, both as individuals and as a whole?

What is beyond this entire existence—from atoms to nebulas, from the smallest particles of a human being to his material and spiritual depths—and their orderliness, harmony, beauty, and wisdom?

Since these facts cannot be attributed to coincidences, there must certainly be a truth upon which everything—from particles to planets— is based on. Indeed there is such a truth which is the ultimate basis of everything, and every individual has a duty to know this truth with their own particular qualities...


The Prophet was the greatest role model of wise and noble character and behavior. He, peace be upon him, knew how to diffuse serious situations and never retaliated against personal attacks to his self, and he (peace and blessings be upon him) urged us to follow his way.

Despite being wary of some trouble makers, the Prophet was always friendly, generous and gracious.Amid the multitude of different situations and people he faced, he maintained his stance on affirming justice and leniency. He would advocate all that was good and denounce all that was base and he raised his companions with wisdom, gentleness and consistency. Everything he did was in moderation, without excess or contrariness. With humility, eloquence and calmness, he faced hostility, threats and degradation, trusting in Allah and remaining steadfast.

People came to know him for his compassion and were never disappointed. Even his enemies trusted him with their valuables and when the Prophet was leaving Makkah to migrate to Madinah he ordered Ali to return the trusts of his enemies. This, at a time when wealth was scarce and the need was great!

The Prophet won the people's hearts by his exemplary conduct; no raised voices, no depraving speech, no dishonoring women and a dignified overlooking of human error. People's hearts inclined to him even though they had been his outspoken enemies. With gentleness, humility, strength, and kindness, the Prophet gathered and raised an Ummah...:ho:

"When you start to force your religious beliefs on others throught intimidation, violence or the political process"
I guess all the Christian explores that landed in Central and South america - finding the people who were there were not Christians, decided to do what we are very good at. You are so right
Run your own life and leave other people to run theirs.[/quote]