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CFrance 01-04-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimturner (Post 990112)
Sorry, I do not see any point in your words above.

I will be clear, I AM CHRISTIAN and will not agree to tolerate the savagery of middle eastern religions. I was taught to be faithful to God and you cannot do that following anything but the bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ.
I have never understood the warm touchy beliefs from the 60s. Good deeds is wonderful, but to deny Jesus Christ is an unforgivable sin in my faith.

Whoever taught you that the only way to be faithful to God is to follow Christian teachings was indoctrinating you into their belief system.

Which is fine, but don't for a minute think that Christians are the only ones with access to God. Christians don't have a soul claim on God. They don't even have the original claim on God.

And don't forget, or apparently you have, that this country was founded with religious freedom in mind. You have no right to claim yours is the only religion to be followed in the governing of America. Or even that any religion is to be followed in the governing of America.

That kind of intolerance is as scary as groups like the KKK and other white supremists.

Schaumburger 01-04-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 990007)
Personally, I believe every individual has the right to follow the beliefs of their religion. However, that does not give that person the right to refuse to do their job, whether it be serving a customer alcohol and pork, inspecting a restaurant because it serves pork or marrying someone because they are gay. If this is part of your job duties and it is legal according to the laws of your country, then do your job or find another place to work.

I find most of sharia law loathsome. I also do not understand the logic behind Orthodox Judaism or fundamentalist Christianity. This country was based on freedom of religion. No one should have the right to force others to follow their beliefs nor should laws be changed to accommodate those beliefs.

Extremists of any persuasion are obscenities to me. No one has the right to foist their beliefs on another. You don't want to touch pork? Fine, get a job where pork isn't served. You believe that gays don't have the right to marry? Fine, don't work in a marriage licensing department. Don't expect the world, especially the USA, to accommodate your beliefs.

Excellent post! Agree with you 100%.

Jimturner 01-04-2015 11:15 AM

You definitely got me wrong. I am a big supporter of same sex marriage and anyone in any gov position to perform them should be held in contempt when they do not. But if you are saying that one can say forget about Jesus, Then we disagree on that point.

Schaumburger 01-04-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 990131)
Whoever taught you that the only way to be faithful to God is to follow Christian teachings was indoctrinating you into their belief system.

Which is fine, but don't for a minute think that Christians are the only ones with access to God. Christians don't have a soul claim on God. They don't even have the original claim on God.

And don't forget, or apparently you have, that this country was founded with religious freedom in mind. You have no right to claim yours is the only religion to be followed in the governing of America. Or even that any religion is to be followed in the governing of America.

That kind of intolerance is as scary as groups like the KKK and other white supremists.

Another excellent post. Thank you!

Challenger 01-04-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimturner (Post 990129)
I believe that any faith that does not include Jesus Christ as lord and savior to be an abomination.

Wow! Wow! Wow

Rags123 01-04-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 990124)
Getting back to the Moderator's request before this thread is closed. I have seen posts quoting Internet articles that a third grader would Snope. And sources cited that have zero credibility. And hyperlinks everywhere in between ponderous ramblings. But to make up a story just for feedback totally sucks. Reminds me of Milli Vanilli. You blew it blueash.

Got you and I to agree however.

A lie is a lie !!!!

Matters not why, especially on a forum. It is simply trolling as elementary children do.


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