Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1672569)

I have no theory, conspiracy or otherwise. I do have questions:

1) why was he taken off suicide watch?
2) why was he under-guarded, especially since he had just been taken off suicide watch? You'd think they'd have at least -some- precautions, instead of what they claim to be overworked, understaffed, extra-shift guards. Maybe they should have had normal shift guys watching this particular set of cells.
3) were there tapes of him doing this? There were cameras there, afterall. If there were tapes, what do they show? If the cameras weren't functioning properly, why, especially considering that this guy had just been taken off suicide watch? Again - you'd think -some- precautions would be in order here, even if not extra ones.

Facts - not theory:

1. there are definitely people who stood to gain by Epstein being unable to testify.
2. only the current administration's Dept. of Justice has oversight over Epstein's custody and prosecution, and the jail falls under the jurisdiction of the DoJ.
3. the AG had a personal relationship with Epstein, however close or distant, and when that happens, typically the AG would need to recuse himself from the investigation.
4. the AG has not mentioned whether he would recuse himself or not, so no conclusions can be made about his bias, yet.

Whether the DoJ played an active role in his death or not, we may never know. But there are a lot of questions that need answers, and if those questions are set aside and not allowed to be persued, that will allow the public to jump to a lot more conclusions than if a full and open transparent investigation ever will.

I'd rather see actual truth and facts, than conspiracies.

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1672665)

Ghislaine Maxwell

I believe I heard on the news that Ghislaine Maxwell has been named Epstien's co-conspirator ........ What a surprise she has disappeared and no one knows where she is! She is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, British Publishing mogul who supposedly committed suicide off his yacht in the Atlantic after being found guilty of robbing his own companies and his employees retirement funds.

Birds of a feather etc. etc. :ohdear:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1672784)

It's $$$ All About The Benjamin's $$$. Those poor children. I hope someway they get the help they need to live the best life they can after such a horrendous start.

Each time they find this person guilty of abusing another child they should kill him again, *******. There is so much evil & sickness going on in our world. I worry for all of our Grandchildren.

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1672569)

I have no theory, conspiracy or otherwise. I do have questions:

1) why was he taken off suicide watch?
2) why was he under-guarded, especially since he had just been taken off suicide watch? You'd think they'd have at least -some- precautions, instead of what they claim to be overworked, understaffed, extra-shift guards. Maybe they should have had normal shift guys watching this particular set of cells.
3) were there tapes of him doing this? There were cameras there, afterall. If there were tapes, what do they show? If the cameras weren't functioning properly, why, especially considering that this guy had just been taken off suicide watch? Again - you'd think -some- precautions would be in order here, even if not extra ones.

Facts - not theory:

1. there are definitely people who stood to gain by Epstein being unable to testify.
2. only the current administration's Dept. of Justice has oversight over Epstein's custody and prosecution, and the jail falls under the jurisdiction of the DoJ.
3. the AG had a personal relationship with Epstein, however close or distant, and when that happens, typically the AG would need to recuse himself from the investigation.
4. the AG has not mentioned whether he would recuse himself or not, so no conclusions can be made about his bias, yet.

Whether the DoJ played an active role in his death or not, we may never know. But there are a lot of questions that need answers, and if those questions are set aside and not allowed to be persued, that will allow the public to jump to a lot more conclusions than if a full and open transparent investigation ever will.

I'd rather see actual truth and facts, than conspiracies.

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1671965)

So much for suicide watch. Show me the body. Maybe it's a ruse and he escaped, with a little help from his friends. Or maybe he was "offed" by people involved in his crimes. The tabloid will have a field day with this one.

Originally Posted by collie1228 (Post 1672217)

No matter what you think of this pervert or the case in general, you can't deny that people rightly think the whole situation is fishy. Getting the FBI involved should shine some light on it. At the very least there was tremendous negligence involved by prison guards and officials.

Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1672225)

For all the goods the FBI is going to uncover, they might as well use Community Watch.