[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by daniel200

I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

Easy to see that must peeps here never worked or owned company that rely on advertising. I have and mailing out ads work. You must not be a coupon clipper.

[Luggage]

Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Not logical. It doesn't benefit me because I rarely use any postal services. But, I do pay a lot of taxes that are used to pay for the Post Office, most of which goes to pay them to delivery the underpriced junk mail.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Luggage

Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

Who will pay for the $50 billion relief bill referred to in Post No. 20?

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

LOL. So, you opt out of one piece of junk mail. What's the point? Ever since ValPak started putting $100 checks in some of their envelopes, I have been afraid to throw them away. And, sometimes they actually have useful coupons, like Sam's Club membership discounts.

it's at least a beginning, an option, where others have zero options but to get the junk. As for the $100 checks feel free to take the bait, I've never found anything of any real value in a valpak ever. None of the merchants are anything we care to give money to.

[Southwest737]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

It also keeps people working in landfills employed

Our trash is waste to energy. It does not go to a landfill. So junk mail helps keep the lights on. Embrace it.

[retiredguy123]

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[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Luggage

Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

For those who believe that the USPS doesn't cost the taxpayers any money, here is the latest summary of their financial status from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) in September 2021:

"USPS is the largest postal service in the world, delivering an estimated 49 percent of all mail sent globally and playing a critical role in the nation’s communications and commerce. Congress designed USPS to be a self-sustaining entity that, like a business, would cover its operating costs primarily with revenues from selling certain products and services. However, starting in fiscal year 2007, USPS’s expenses began exceeding its revenue. This has led to total net losses of $87 billion from fiscal years 2007 through 2020, and $188 billion in total unfunded liabilities and debt as of the end of fiscal year 2020."

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Southwest737

Our trash is waste to energy. It does not go to a landfill. So junk mail helps keep the lights on. Embrace it.

Embrace junk mail? Not a chance.''

What really bothers me we make a donation to a charity and several times a month same charity comes back for more.

As a result my charitable dollars are used to pay for more mailing to us asking for more money.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Southwest737

Our trash is waste to energy. It does not go to a landfill. So junk mail helps keep the lights on. Embrace it.

Really? Maybe we could truck in additional trash from Canada and Mexico so we can produce even more electricity.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Luggage

Actually NO taxes are spent on the post office

The one gov dept that costs us nothing .

You might want to do a bit of research on that...

Congress Just Voted to Overhaul the Post Office. Here's What That Means for Your Mail - CNET

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by daniel200

I don’t like junk mail. It never gets past the trash bin near my mail box. I found this link that allows you to opt out of those ValPak mailers. No name is required to opt out. Just your postal address.

Valpak Mailing List Removal Request

I've never seen so much junk mail in my life till we moved here. It's truly a junk mail paradise. Car dealers, hearing aids, assisted living and memory care facilities, financial planning and funeral services, dental implants, and other assorted things I'll ask for when I need them.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by DonH57

I've never seen so much junk mail in my life till we moved here. It's truly a junk mail paradise. Car dealers, hearing aids, assisted living and memory care facilities, financial planning and funeral services, dental implants, and other assorted things I'll ask for when I need them.

Once a week a company offers to cremate us not sure if they mean after we are gone though. They do through in a free lunch.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Really? Maybe we could truck in additional trash from Canada and Mexico so we can produce even more electricity.

Very good

[craigrmorrison]

Fair enough. One person’s junk is another’s treasure. As in a reply stated earlier in this thread, without commercial direct mail pumping $ into the USPS system, your postage would be much higher.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Who will pay for the $50 billion relief bill referred to in Post No. 20?

The $50B ($5B/year for 10 years) relief package is certainly an exception as well as a previous $10B loan that was forgiven. Both of which are a result of onerous financial burden imposted by the administration in 2006. (ahem).

The current bill is to offset the requirements around retirement funding that no other company (except a few federal agencies) have to do. And have resulted in the PO almost running out of money (PO Fund is/was down to $9B)

The Bill was passed by a bipartisan vote of 342 to 92. So, BOTH parties agreed this was a good thing to do.

To the "junk mail". I don't like it either, but it is a method of some small (some not so small) companies advertise. And it provides a baseline income for the post office to offset the cost of delivering those birthday and Christmas cards to us from our grandkids.

My personal opinion is we should transition to a paperless society, but until then the post office is still the least expensive and most reliable method of sending snail mail.