[skarra]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Objective, scientific "proof" that there is no recent surge in global warming.

A recent surge in global warming is not detectable yet | Communications Earth & Environment

So you are acknowledging that there is global warming, but as the article points out it's too early to tell if we are currently in the midst of a surge in the warming.

I wonder how many people on this forum have college degrees and could even explain to a lay person what the article says. My guess is very few.

[rsmurano]

Davefin is right on with his reply. This is not new info. Did Gore and Thurnberg write that paper?

[Rocksnap]

Most of us living here in TV have many decades behind us. Therefore, most of us remember all the warnings of ‘global warming, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, then the ‘global cooling, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, coincidentally cycling back and forth every 10 years when we didn’t all die. Yet here we are. Sea levels haven’t budged, and we are all still alive.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Most of us living here in TV have many decades behind us. Therefore, most of us remember all the warnings of ‘global warming, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, then the ‘global cooling, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, coincidentally cycling back and forth every 10 years when we didn’t all die. Yet here we are. Sea levels haven’t budged, and we are all still alive.

Milton and Helene are obvious indicators of global warming. Especially the heating of the ocean water.

[hypart]

The study compares the rate of warming from 1970-2012 and compares it to the rate of warming from 2013 to the present. It's conclusion is that the warming rate has not increased in recent years.

Just because there isn't an increase in the rate of warming doesn't mean that global temperatures aren't warming. There just isn't enough data to say it's a surge.


Per study:
"In short, a 40% increase in the 2013–2040 warming rate relative to the 1970–2012 rate will be needed to declare a significant warming surge by 2040."

So, basically, the warming trend is steady.

If you have a tumor and it's steadily growing at 10% per year..... Yay?

You still have a problem.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Milton and Helene are obvious indicators of global warming. Especially the heating of the ocean water.

Milton and Helene are merely obvious indicators that hurricanes exist. PERIOD.

PS: The deadliest hurricane known was the "great hurricane of 1780" with 22,000 deaths. Nobody was driving a SUV back then.

[merrymini]

I would be more concerned with the garbage we produce. We could actually do something about that!

[CODYCAT]

No reason to discuss this because Al Gore said the world came to an end in 2014. Just read all the predictions that never come true.

[OnInTwo]

Nexus by Yuval Noah Harari is a fascinating non fiction read that explores information networks and their connections throughout history. Explains a lot of our our good and not so good behaviors throughout history and current events from several angles. Anyone who yearns to understand the what and why of misinformation and disinformation may want to put in the effort it takes to read it.

[Cuervo]

Global warming, global warming, global warming. Is it real or not there are people who have taken a stand that it on our doorstep, others who say it does not exist and others who say it does exist but it's not man made. Now the true believers say it's from all the pollutants that we have been pumping into the air. I don't fall into any one of these camps, but no matter if you believe in global warming or not what can't be denied is humans are polluting machines. We pump fumes into the air that if you were in a confined space would kill you, we have contaminated the soil to the point where it has entered our food system and in many areas in this country it is unsafe to drink the water. Stop arguing about global warming and wake up to the fact that humans are on a suicide mission with all the waste we are producing.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Milton and Helene are merely obvious indicators that hurricanes exist. PERIOD.

PS: The deadliest hurricane known was the "great hurricane of 1780" with 22,000 deaths. Nobody was driving a SUV back then.

And how many cars were on the roads in 1780?

[Bay Kid]

Maybe we should stop all the burning that goes on. Total pollution.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

In the (desperate) hope that the Chicken Little Crew can be enlightened and put the topic to bed permanently.

How useful do you find insulting people when you are trying to get them to see your side? It’s obvious that you are emotionally invested in this subject and are therefore not a reliable source of information.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Most of us living here in TV have many decades behind us. Therefore, most of us remember all the warnings of ‘global warming, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, then the ‘global cooling, we will all die within 10 years if we don’t fix this’, coincidentally cycling back and forth every 10 years when we didn’t all die. Yet here we are. Sea levels haven’t budged, and we are all still alive.

Seriously? There was actually some respected climate scientist who said we were all going to die in 10 years? I think I might have heard about it if it were true.

[Ash Marwah]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Objective, scientific "proof" that there is no recent surge in global warming.

A recent surge in global warming is not detectable yet | Communications Earth & Environment

We have just witnessed two back to back hurricanes. The normal Tropical Windstorms are becoming hurricanes as they approach land and are fed by warm temperatures of the ocean. The result is they are becoming hurricanes. A third tropical storm is forming right now and we will find out this weekend if it is going to become another hurricane going over the warm ocean as a result of climate change.