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GaryKoca 11-25-2021 07:58 AM

I agree. Two correct verdicts. The Georgia case was a group of vigilantes taking the law into their own hands.

kenoc7 11-25-2021 08:03 AM

I don't believe anything from Fox News or the Heritage Foundation.

nn0wheremann 11-25-2021 08:03 AM

The only thing worse than a murderer is a murdering braggart. Those men will do some hard time, and we are all better off with them incarcerated.

Funkman 11-25-2021 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2033392)
Some white bigots are finally convicted of hunting and killing a black man, and some of you come her to attack a black man for being interested in seeing that conviction happen. Interesting that your concern on that part of this story. Very interesting

To be fair, Sharpton could have seen the verdict happen anywhere, but instead, he did what he tends to do, which is to insert himself into a racially charged event in order to get in front of the cameras. It's not the color of his skin that is the problem, it's his habit of constantly trying to squeeze himself into the picture.

DeanFL 11-25-2021 08:10 AM

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The CORRECT verdict in both trials. Hopefully those 3 racist bigots will get the full sentences - but now the state will need to house and feed them...

On another point - why do the usual folks come out to support the of-color victims of the few "racist" crimes W on B? But with the HUNDREDS of national B on B crimes and murders.... nada. Silence, and nothing improves at all. A cryin' shame for inner-city people. And of course for the many many B on W crimes, shh..... very sad. All lives matter.
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Bogie Shooter 11-25-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2033511)
"Race hustler?" So many would prefer to just use "uppity," which goes directly to the heart of the problem.

Those many that you speak of, are still living in the Jim Crow idiom.

christine J Toft 11-25-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2033334)
Remember, this crime was buried by “officialdom” in Ga and only came to light after the video was leaked. Clearly some were fine with letting it happen.

And covering it up. Now indicted and to be tried in February. Jacqueline Lee Johnson.

christine J Toft 11-25-2021 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2033493)
Just wondering what the outcome would have been....without the video?

There would not have been an indictment. It was covered up from the start by a prosecutor who instructed one to go home, clean up and just come to the police station. Now she can face a jury in her trial.

GypsyRN 11-25-2021 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2033376)
Why was Al Sharpton there? Did the Arbery family invite him? What value did he provide? I don't get it.

He had to re-energize his never-ending 15 minutes of "infamy"...what a bigot!

ThirdOfFive 11-25-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2033511)
"Race hustler?" So many would prefer to just use "uppity," which goes directly to the heart of the problem.

Only those arrogant enough to wave the banner of their own superior morality.

MX rider 11-25-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2033301)
I remember watching the cell phone video of Arbery's murder. It made me physically sick.

I felt the same way when I saw it as well. Poor guy was minding his own business. They murdered him, plain and simple.

They all got got what they deserved!

GypsyRN 11-25-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2033392)
Some white bigots are finally convicted of hunting and killing a black man, and some of you come her to attack a black man for being interested in seeing that conviction happen. Interesting that your concern on that part of this story. Very interesting


WoW !!! You are kidding, right?

dsgreen3 11-25-2021 08:48 AM

[QUOTE=tvbound;2033431]Getting justice in one of two, is at least a baby step in righting our very lopsided system against people of color. To keep working on actually balancing the scales and scouring out the systemic racism that some don't even believe exists, will take a successful prosecution of this person also - and sanctioning two of the attorneys in the Ahmaud trial (black pastor whiner/toenail woman).

So you are willing to let a kid who clearly was acting in self defense go to jail for the rest of his life to balance the system! The Justice system (Jury) got it right in both cases. The media needs to start reporting facts all of them and stop giving their opinions like they were the news. How many times have they led us down rabbit holes with their false hoods. Too many far too many.

Proveone 11-25-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 2033286)
Two correct verdicts, this and Kenosha.

Well you were right on the second verdict but definitely wrong on the first. Underaged wantabe cop, crossing State lines, with an illegally purchased military style weapon, who was looking for trouble. Hope the VICTIMS families sue Rittenhouse and the Kenosha police for millions. Rittenhouse is now doomed.

Freeda 11-25-2021 09:18 AM

Someone, above, asked about why the neighbor was charged. The neighbor (Mr. Bryan) was convicted for felony murder and lesser included/related charges. Because he participated in the chase - but mainly the cornering (false imprisonment - a felony - by positioning his truck so as to prevent Mr. Arbery from escaping the three men) of Mr. Arbery - that lead to his death, Mr. Bryan's felony level actions (false inprisonment) contributed to the situation which lead to Mr. Arbery's death. Class textbook felony murder situation; could be used in law school classes to explain the concept.

Similar to driver of a getaway car who gets charged with felony murder when the robber kills the victim being robbed.

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2033456)
He was carrying a weapon that could inflict deadly wounds very quickly. I do not think anyone that approached him was going to try to kill him when he had that weapon. I just give his youth the benefit of the doubt. An older man or woman who did this should have the book thrown at them given the same facts.

So was Gaige Grosskruetz... But he was actually carrying his weapon illegally. But so far, no charges against him...

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2033484)
Overall sad situation. Sad that an 18 year old had to do the job I would have had the National Guard do.

He was 17 at the time...

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2033493)
Just wondering what the outcome would have been....without the video?

In which case?

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2033506)
Why did Tucker Carlson have a documentary film crew at the Wisconsin trial? Same reason I suspect. They are all trying to hijack these sad events to further their points of view.

Oh, I don't know... Maybe they felt it was important to document what was going on?

Lord knows the rest of the MSM wasn't doing it accurately...

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2033511)
"Race hustler?" So many would prefer to just use "uppity," which goes directly to the heart of the problem.

Spare me your righteous indignation...

He's been called that by many. If you bothered to watch the Instagram video I posted earlier, you'd see that others (including African Americans) feel the same way...

Sharpton has made a career of that. He's also gotten people killed because of his lies and rhetoric...

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 2033519)
I don't believe anything from Fox News or the Heritage Foundation.

So whom DO you believe?

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2033528)
Those many that you speak of, are still living in the Jim Crow idiom.

You shouldn't talk about tvbound that way...

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2033565)
Well you were right on the second verdict but definitely wrong on the first. Underaged wantabe cop, crossing State lines, with an illegally purchased military style weapon, who was looking for trouble. Hope the VICTIMS families sue Rittenhouse and the Kenosha police for millions. Rittenhouse is now doomed.

Tell me you never watched the trial without saying you never watched the trial...

Pretty much everything you said above was incorrect...

Bogie Shooter 11-25-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2033596)
In which case?

Sure. Let me explain it for you.
I quoted the OP which had two links to the Arbery case.
Do you need more?

Topspinmo 11-25-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2033603)
So whom DO you believe?


I think we know the answer.

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2033610)
Sure. Let me explain it for you.
I quoted the OP which had two links to the Arbery case.
Do you need more?

And I was being facetious, since the Rittenhouse trial most likely would also have ended differently had their not been video of the event...

Sorry if I wasn't being clear...

JMintzer 11-25-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2033621)
I think we know the answer.

Probably, but I'm always open to learn...

JOLIVERIO 11-25-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2033376)
Why was Al Sharpton there? Did the Arbery family invite him? What value did he provide? I don't get it.

What does it matter if Al Sharpton was there? Maybe the family requested he be there for moral support. Regardless, he had no effect on the verdict.

jimbomaybe 11-25-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2033565)
Well you were right on the second verdict but definitely wrong on the first. Underaged wantabe cop, crossing State lines, with an illegally purchased military style weapon, who was looking for trouble. Hope the VICTIMS families sue Rittenhouse and the Kenosha police for millions. Rittenhouse is now doomed.

I think it has been demonstrated the he did not cross state lines with the weapon in question, poor judgment going there in the first place, yes, but not to the point, having the weapon well the jury agreed to self defense, looking for trouble , you know this how?? no past history to suggest that on the other hand I think I have read something about all of the three involved have felony records, that would come out in a civil action and not aid in indicating liability on Rittenhouse's part rather indicate they were looking for "trouble" all this aside of the video of them chasing Rittenhouse, I think Rittenhouse will be on the receiving end of benefits of civil actions

Dreah 11-25-2021 11:57 AM

So what if he was there. Your point being?????

Joe V. 11-25-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2033565)
Well you were right on the second verdict but definitely wrong on the first. Underaged wantabe cop, crossing State lines, with an illegally purchased military style weapon, who was looking for trouble. Hope the VICTIMS families sue Rittenhouse and the Kenosha police for millions. Rittenhouse is now doomed.

The riotous perpetrators, not victims, will have their entire criminal pasts laid open. They will get nothing. Best for their families and the pistolero dude to slink away.

Taltarzac725 11-25-2021 12:07 PM

Why the Kyle Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict is not a surprise to legal experts : NPR

This explains stuff well.

rmd2 11-25-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2033368)
If Kyle had not been armed he would be dead. He was asked to come to protect property from arsonists and rioting violent thugs. The prosecution had no case as it was clearly self defense. Essentially, the right to self defense was on trial. The case should never have been brought. Binger wanted to make a name for himself at Kyle's expense, a terrible thing to do to a law abiding 18 year old.

It would not surprise me if the prosecution team was investigated for ethics violations, fifth amendment issues, asking witnesses to lie, not producing the jump kick thug who they had identified, providing a much poorer quality video than they had belatedly to the defense and Binger mishandling the AR-15 with his finger on the trigger. Indeed, the index (trigger) finger is now being referred to as the "Binger finger" by many.

I agree. There were two things about what happened to Kyle after this event that were shocking. (1) - he was put in a cell with no running water and was not allowed to shower for one month! His skin had degraded and was infected/bleeding. When he was finally allowed to take a shower he took a 3 hour shower and his skin was a MESS! (2) - his first attorneys were more concerned about their Trump message than they were about their client. Kyle's bail was high but the Go Fund Me had raised more than enough money to bail him out and his attorneys didn't bail him out. They instead kept him in jail in this inhumane situation with no showers. It's a good thing he finally got an attorney who actually cared about his client. His former attorneys are now trying to keep the over one million dollars of the Go Fund Me money for Kyle. Scum of the earth!

retiredguy123 11-25-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreah (Post 2033691)
So what if he was there. Your point being?????

My point is that it seems to me that he only wants to widen the gap between the races for personal gain. He never has a positive message. Most posters agree that justice was served in the trial, but, I don't see what role Al Sharpton had other than to get paid to show up. Maybe I am missing something, but I have never heard him suggest anything constructive to improve race relations.

manaboutown 11-25-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2033703)

The verdict was no surprise to me as he should never have been put on trial.

Bogie Shooter 11-25-2021 01:34 PM

I thought this thread was about the Arbery trial…..not about that little boy who killed those people in WI.:shrug:

Dana1963 11-25-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2033738)
I thought this thread was about the Arbery trial…..not about that little boy who killed those people in WI.:shrug:

Have you ever seen a thread that stays on topic?

Bogie Shooter 11-25-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2033747)
Have you ever seen a thread that stays on topic?

Dog poop!

PugMom 11-25-2021 03:51 PM

Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!! There is a God, and a very Happy Thanksgiving:bigbow:

PugMom 11-25-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2033520)
The only thing worse than a murderer is a murdering braggart. Those men will do some hard time, and we are all better off with them incarcerated.

with any luck they will qualify for the death penalty


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