Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1935212)

And to those that believe, w hearts and souls, that you KNOW how it all went down, as you sit comfortably in your armchair, behind your keyboard, NEVER w any policing experience, you sicken me.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1935047)

My point is that if ANY OTHER police officer had been dealing with him instead of Chauvin, he would have been alive today. In jail, and alive.

The reason Chauvin is guilty of MURDER rather than unintentional homicide, is because he made SURE his victim was dead before taking his knee off his victim's neck. And even when he was told the victim had no pulse, he STAYED on that guy's neck for a few more minutes.

He was on the ground, face against the pavement, handcuffed behind his back, with someone kneeling on his back, someone else holding down his legs. There was no way this guy was going to get back up. Even if he twitched his final death twitch, he wasn't going anywhere and was a threat to no one at that point.

And still, Chauvin kept his knee on the guy's neck. After he was already dead and someone confirmed that he did not, in fact, have a pulse.

That's why he's in jail. Not because he killed a criminal. That happens all the time, it's the nature of the business, stuff happens and I still respect the police departments.

No. It was because he didn't have to kill him, the criminal was already in a position where he was unable to cause harm, he was then killed, and then the officer stayed on his neck to make SURE the guy was dead. That's why he's in jail and Floyd is dead.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1935224)

Would the solution be only African American officers for African American crimes and calls and Caucasian officers for other crimes?

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1935085)

Opinion and conjecture. You cannot say that with absolute certainty.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1935097)

And you have yet to speak of Mr. Floyd’s culpability.

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1935218)

"George Floyd was arrested and sentenced to a penitentiary for several years for breaking into a private home and holding a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman..." Nothing in the official police arrest record at the time of the robbery mentioned anything about the woman being pregnant. I agree that Chauvin and Floyd were unprincipled, however, police are not supposed to be judge and jury.

Background Check: Investigating George Floyd’s Criminal Record | Snopes.com

As for Floyd's cocaine use, Florida's Republican Congressman in Fort Myers was caught buying and using cocaine BUT he was not sent to jail. He was sent to a rehab center. Today he is a commentator for right wing media.

In 2006, the FBI warned us that White Nationalist had infiltrated our police departments. Nothing was ever done about it.
FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed? | PBS NewsHour

We do need to change, otherwise things will just get worst.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1935264)

Thing are going to get worse, just look at history, ever decade it’s get worse.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1935258)

No one short of GOD can ever say ANYTHING with ABSOLUTE certainty. Even scientists never make statements of certainty.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1935262)

Because it has ZERO to do with the case - which is did D. Chauvin MURDER Mr. Floyd? Mr. Floyd was NOT on trial !

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1935284)

Mr. Floyd put himself in that precarious situation by his actions but that carries no accountability.