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2BNTV 02-13-2012 10:22 AM

Imho
 
Generally speaking, I believe that Whitney claimed her use of drugs was no big deal. I don't think the real problem is their are drugs available but the need to use them.

I think the only way for someone to get off of drugs is to go into treatmet and understand the emotional, psycological need to be dependent on them.
What is the real reason that is causing one to use and the willingness and strength needed to go through this process to a successful completion.

We will never know what drives a person to do drugs to this extreme result.

Only the person doing something like this needs to find their answer before it's too late.

ilovetv 02-13-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 452591)
And maybe you think ours is better - turn on the local news ---- try leaving your unlocked bicycle in the middle of Orlando or NYC just wonder who has the higher crime rate Orlando or Amsterdam

You miss the point. He was talking about the "black eye" all the druggie tourists brought. Who wants to take the trip of a lifetime to Europe and see more Skid Row or Bowery than the worst ones here in the U.S.

It's also a matter of the Culture of Death surrounding the Dr. Kavorkian type culture.....legally assisted suicide for sometimes very flimsy reasons (like older people not wanting to be a "bother" anymore, or the disabled, etc.).

Who wants to live in a Culture of Death? (Well I guess some do, wanting third trimester abortions while a C-Section can be done just as fast, if not faster, to save a mother AND baby.)

memason 02-13-2012 10:25 AM

oh boy.....here we go.

:popcorn:

CarolSells 02-13-2012 12:26 PM

Just My Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 452591)
And maybe you think ours is better - turn on the local news ---- try leaving your unlocked bicycle in the middle of Orlando or NYC just wonder who has the higher crime rate Orlando or Amsterdam


IMHO, the legalization of drugs, of whatever variety, would only have an effect on our crime rate if it reduces the number of drug-related arrests and convictions. (I'm not expressing an opinion for either side on that here.) No where has it been mentioned that Amsterdam (I Googled their stance on drugs yesterday) is handing out free drugs. People still need money to buy them.

Also, IMHO, drugs will never be legalized here. The "War On Drugs" by our "guvment" will never be won.

1) Think Prostitution. How long has this been a crime? Is our "war" on it effective?

2) Drugs are Big Business all of the way up the chain from the guy peddling on the street, to the legal system, and to The Big Dogs who are actually making the real money that's being made.

TF Hutch 02-13-2012 02:50 PM

You mean there is not a club for that?
 
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duffysmom 02-13-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TF Hutch (Post 452798)
I was introduced to marajuana by the United States Army during the Viet Nam debacle. I would think many Viet Nam vets would enjoy a joint now and then. After a career filled with drug test, I am looking forward to a retirement with no drug test. I prefer Pot to alchohol, no hangover.

In regards to Pot, The Chief of Police where I live (not TV) has said what goes on in your own home is your business, not his departments. I agree.

Let the Flames begin!

That may be true where you live but if you live in a courtyard villa and I'm your neighbor I would not tolerate your dope fumes wafting over the wall. Secondhand cigarette smoke is dangerous enought but inhaling your pot won't fly here. No flame intended, just a desire for fresh air and a clear head. Peace brother.

De Lis 02-14-2012 08:52 AM

I have lived / worked also in Holland, just like JackZ, and agree with him 100%. While we are on the subject, just ask the Canadian RCMP how happy they are that pot was legalized; it made their job twice as difficult! (I have lived there, as well.)

Our DEA agents put their lives on the line every day in order to try to stem the onslaught of our consumer society. My hat goes off to them.

Lastly, NiteHawk, don't ever - ever - think that the legalizing of drugs will make our lives any SAFER.


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