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graciegirl 10-17-2016 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1307219)
I can't help but wonder how many hypocrites on here sit in their easy chair, with beer at hand...while the National Anthem plays on television?

At least Kaepernick is expressing his Constitutional rights to protest something important to him...not just because he's lazy. :shrug:

I never thought to stand if I was not present. Never have even considered not doing it as I watched it on television as a lack of patriotism. I am amazed that you would call us hypocrites for not standing at home.

You learn something new everyday.

Do you stand CNM?????

Allegiance 10-17-2016 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1307245)
I never thought to stand if I was not present. Never have even considered not doing it as I watched it on television as a lack of patriotism. I am amazed that you would call us hypocrites for not standing at home.

You learn something new everyday.

Do you stand CNM?????

You can't see the entire living room in picture, but said totv member is watching a niners football game, rooting for his favorite quarterback, ashtray off to side has Cuban cigars as well as a fireplace burning U.S. Flags, all while the national anthem is playing.
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redwitch 10-17-2016 09:19 AM

I remember the Mexico City Olympics where Smith and Cruz gave the Black Power salute when our anthem was played. I was livid! My brother, who had just returned from his second tour in Nam, said this is what he fought for -- the right of ALL Americans to peacefully protest. He was sure our father had fought in WWII and Korea for the same reasons. Shut me up then, keeps me from being upset about it today. I'm proud that we live in a country where we can say what we think and protest when we perceive something is wrong. I don't agree with CK but I'm proud that he can make his statement without being jailed.

P.S., I don't stand when the anthem is played on television. I do sit quietly.

redwitch 10-17-2016 09:22 AM

Forgot this point. What bothers me far more than CK protesting is seeing the athletes and fans talking and moving around while the anthem is played. This seems to have gotten better in the past few years but still occurs. This, to me, is far more disrespectful.

rothbear 10-17-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1281754)
Bunch of over paid men playing child games.:popcorn:

My sentiments exactly. I have lived near Pittsburgh and near Philadelphia and have never, EVER been a sports fan. People don't understand. But my opinion is that they are a bunch of overpaid, whining babies and will never get a penny from me. I will never understand the adulation, especially from those who will never make in a lifetime what these guys make, and squander, in a year while acting as though they are gods and can do anything they want.

My support goes to the police, military, fire personnel, EMTs, medical personnel and all the people who are out there everyday making a positive difference.

JoMar 10-17-2016 09:59 AM

We may not like it but to condem him from doing what we all do in this forum is bit hipocrital, IMO. You either have Freedom of Speech or you don't. The exceptions, such as yelling fire in a crowded room, are designed to protect the masses, but the expression of one's personal opinion are protected. I choose to disagree with his tactics but respect his right to express his position through them.

xcaligirl 10-17-2016 10:21 AM

He has supporters but people won't stick with him when he's losing games..... I'm a 49ers fan but not a fan of his!

jtdraig 10-17-2016 12:04 PM

What is interesting to me is that none of these "heroes" seem to be the slightest bit interested into going into the gang-infested areas of Chicago and other large cities to start something positive there. Statistics don't lie and aren't racist.

Barefoot 10-17-2016 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1307320)
You either have Freedom of Speech or you don't.

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1307229)
Any Professional Football player that can't stand & show there respect to our flag for all of Men & Women that died for them & I mean all races & nationality's, they are garbage.

Can't you believe in Freedom of Speech, and at the same time, that citizens must respect the national anthem and the flag?

Allegiance 10-17-2016 07:47 PM

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Excerpt from A Bronx Tale - Why Not to Watch Sports - YouTube

Nucky 10-17-2016 08:14 PM

Great scene no doubt but you made me think of another line in this movie that is a little more appropriate....Nothing is worse than a wasted talent...or opportunity to do the rite thing. Salute the Flag standing on your feet. Not good to be a pinhead when you can be a great example to youngsters. I'm talking about the ball player being a pinhead.

Allegiance 10-17-2016 08:30 PM

A Bronx Tale - wasted talent - YouTube
The Lost Soprano - How Lillo Brancato Went From On-Screen Tough Guy to Real Life Cop Killer - New York Magazine
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