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dillywho 07-09-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1084487)
:BigApplause:Thank you for mentioning this. Brilliant man, Thomas Sowell. Been reading him for years. BTW, Does the Japanese, Iraqi or Russian flag fly over the United Nations building in NYC...a taxpayer-supported edifice? Oh, wait...they ALL DO!

Amazon.com has banned all Confederate memorabilia from its site, but not ISIS. So who's kidding whom about political effrontery or insensitivity?

Amen!!:BigApplause:

janmcn 07-09-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1084487)
:BigApplause:Thank you for mentioning this. Brilliant man, Thomas Sowell. Been reading him for years. BTW, Does the Japanese, Iraqi or Russian flag fly over the United Nations building in NYC...a taxpayer-supported edifice? Oh, wait...they ALL DO!

Amazon.com has banned all Confederate memorabilia from its site, but not ISIS. So who's kidding whom about political effrontery or insensitivity?


Comparing the flags that fly over the United Nations building with a flag that flies in Ocala is questionable. The US is only one of many countries that supports the UN.

dillywho 07-09-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1084486)
Sorry I walked on your post Dilly.

I will add that in the middle part of the U.S. in rural areas, we would see the confederate flag on barns and out buildings occasionaly, in Ohio close to the Mason Dixon line. It is just a symbol of the rural south to many of us. It is being made more out of than it should be.

No one that most of us know in this day and age would promote slavery or racial hatred. The confederate flag is to many a symbol of the part of the country that many grew up in and love. That is ALL.

As you all know, I am from Texas. Some of my ancestors fought in the Confederate Army (they were LONG gone before I came along so that means nothing to me other than being an ancestor). That being said, I have never associated the "Stars and Bars" battle flag with slavery or segregation (segregation was the norm when I was growing up in Lubbock). It (the offending flag), to me, just meant "from the South". Period. Amarillo has the Tascosa High School Rebels and that just means they are one of the harder teams to beat. Period.

Steve9930 07-09-2015 10:48 AM

Actually you are incorrect. The fight was about states rights and the right to secede from the Union. Slaves were held in both the North and the South. The way the flag is going to be displayed will be in a historical context. I see no reason it should not be displayed as they intend.

virgind 07-09-2015 10:50 AM

When the person said they wanted to move I thought they wanted to move to Marion county. To bad because there is no reason that the flag cant be flown any where by anyone that wants.

Steve9930 07-09-2015 10:53 AM

Glad to see some of the posters are actually presenting the facts instead of the fiction. Thank You.

2BNTV 07-09-2015 10:55 AM

The Confederate flag to me is a symbol of "States Rights vs Federal Rights".

Certain states did not want to be told what to do, by the federal government.

A divisive symbol of a war, that ended 150 years ago.

Time to let it go........ we are all Americans, that should be united, not divided.

Steve9930 07-09-2015 10:57 AM

I would suggest you re-read it again. Its is about states rights.

TheVillageChicken 07-09-2015 10:58 AM

I didn't realize so many posters lived in Marion County.

Justus 07-09-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1084496)
Comparing the flags that fly over the United Nations building with a flag that flies in Ocala is questionable. The US is only one of many countries that supports the UN.

The UN Building is an American taxpayer-supported structure. What's good for the goose...

Justus 07-09-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 1084476)
If the Confederate battle flag was part of our heritage or history, then let's fly the British union jack, too.

We see the British flag everywhere here in TV. And no one's ever complained.

Jim 9922 07-09-2015 11:13 AM

To me it is a flag of losers. The effort to secede was lost, the flag led in more battles lost than won, its army lost a war, and in subsequent history crackpots, misfits, and other losers seem to identify with it as part of their misguided activities and wrongful acts. In my opinion the flag is only a part of history and as such belongs in museums, historical reenactments, in history books, and maybe on the graves and markers of the poor souls who fought for a losing cause.

Justus 07-09-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1084316)
Are you aware that one of the first slave owners was a black man and there were many more if you want to do a little research.

This link will get you started if you want to put forth the effort.

America

From the article:

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.


This is a fact conveniently obliterated in the rewriting of U.S. history, beginning in the late 1950's to early '60's. Just as the plight of the thousands and thousands of white "indentured servants" has been ignored. These facts are too embarrassing to race hustlers, who are getting rich off white American guilt. And let's not get started on the American Indian tribes that kept slaves long after the Emancipation Proclamation, despite our efforts to change their slave culture.

DianeM 07-09-2015 11:42 AM

The Confederate flag has to go. The South lost. End of story. We have but one flag as a country.

MarkinMd 07-09-2015 11:53 AM

I have no feelings at all about the rebel flag. I believe it is a distraction from whats really important and what we should be concerned about. Two examples : ISIS and Iran with nuclear bombs.


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