Absolutely

So true

Really, Bill O'Reilly, the poster boy for sexual harassment "allegations"? Dirtbag doesn't begin to describe what a scum Bill,"keep Christ in Christmas", O'Reilly is. Not one, but six settlements paid off on his behalf.


Report: Bill O'Reilly struck $32M sexual harassment settlement in Jan.

I couldn't agree more.

They know who's good & bad, too. Maybe Inappropriate Behavior dogs should be stationed in workplaces.:duck:

i disagree, termination is not the same as jail. The punishment should fit the crime no matter what it is. They knew they were doing wrong and they hurt people.

I find myself agreeing with your posts more and more.
During the time that I was a young woman in a professional office it was known that certain men in higher positions were to be watched constantly, and we learned never to shut the office door when you were in with these people, and we also learned that it was useless to go to Human Resources about their behavior because the woman was always blamed for being too attractive, or dressing too provocatively, or being a FLIRT! We knew (in those days) that we were second class citizens in the business world and we learned how to protect ourselves. With the advent of the Women's Movement things changed in the courts, but really nothing much changed in the corporate offices. Young attractive females were still considered "available".

I was very fortunate to have been raised by a wonderful Father and a very strong professional Mother. He taught me that men are kind and supportive and she taught me to never let my guard down at work or any other place, and to always "act" like a lady around men. "Don't give them the idea you are EASY." Never rely on your looks, make sure your ability lives up to your looks.

Plus, I was a female in the work place when jobs were plentiful! I did not have to worry about finding another job if I left this one.

Unconditional........Yep!

Glad I am not important. I must have done 1 or 2 stupid things in my life.

This is going to take a toll on humor. Even Madison Avenue will probably be changing it's tune. sigh.

john cena commercial with women - Bing video

Humor died a long time ago once political correctness took over. I think one of the funniest movies of all time was Blazing Saddles which just offended everyone.

It was a hollywood culture that was the norm in the past.
Now the present has made it news worthy.

Sexual Harassment and Sexual inpropriates.
 

Many men including Matt Lauer have been accused of sexual improprieties and it is being acted upon. IMHO it should be. The thing that confuses me is that several presidents have also been accused and nothing has been done. Why not? All people who have preyed on women should be punished, no matter who they are. :boxing2:

Ray Rice comes to mind.

I am confused by some comments. Is anybody here willing to defend Matt Lauer?

Not me

There is no defense for abuse of power.

I don't know what happened.Someone could have wanted revenge for being pushed aside in her career or in his life.

Or could have wanted money. There is always that. Or he could be a low life nasty man.

But I kind of doubt it.

It's not a witch hunt when the culprit is admitting some of the deeds.

People are not all black or white. There is some good and bad in all of us. It just depends which side of that wins out. Or where one's head goes once achieving wealth and stardom.

Compare Matt Lauer to Paul Newman.

Agreed.

Or for those that attack the victim, enable and make excuses for the abusers...or try to defend them based purely on emotion.

Neither of us know either of them so we don't really know how they act in their real world.

My point is that a man can be a "victim" if someone lies about him.

You must think Bill Cosby was a victim also. These men are rich and powerful and have egos the size of Chicago. They think the rules do not apply to them and now they are finding out that they do so finally some real change for women who have been victimized for years.

If a man is rich and powerful he is all of those things?

Automatically?

If a woman is rich and powerful does she have an ego the size of New York?

Is being financially successful and attaining one's goals harmful to your soul?

No I don't think Bill Cosby was a victim. Anyone who wants to have sex with someone who is unconscious is a sick person.

Matt Lauer may be just as sick.

My point is that someone can be a victim if someone lies about him.

I haven't always been an old unattractive woman. I have lived in this world.

Multiple victims have accused Matt Lauer and he has admitted to wrongdoing. What more do you need?

Omg
 

Thank you for your prayers buy I couldn't disagree more.
IMHO GOD created us in his image which is GOOD.
when we sin we choose to disregard that creation by being sinful.
It is a choice we make not an inherent depravity we give in to.
When in my twenties I worked nights to put myself through XRAY school. Most nights a doctor came by and offered me $20.00 to relieve his loneliness. He said he was away from home so much he didn't get his needs met. I told him to go home plus even if I did agree, I was worth far more than that.
I told my mother about this and she said that when she worked at the ordinance during WWII they officers propositioned them a lot. This is obviously not a new thing. Hopefully all the new attention sexual impropriety is getting will make life easier for our grandchildren. My grand daughters don't need to be harassed and my grandsons don't need to feel it is okay if they harass. :yuck:

There is nothing new in the world of men and women.
What is going on today is no different than has been going on since there were men and women.

So what is different. Technology. The ability to communicate instantly with no requirement of truth being the primary driver. Add to that the politics, the special interests, the legal scavengers, the sensationalism mongers and the much lower moral values of our time.
In aggregate they create a more tolerant/permissive environment for many issues that once were held very private or were simply not allowed.

And then we have the ever present mystery of those who would accuse that have been silent for 10-40 years.

Nothing new. No more than ever before. Just more ability to tell more people almost instantly....with no verification needed.

You miss the point which is that yes it has been going on since the beginning of time, but it will no longer be tolerated. Many women have been victimized and been too ashamed to talk about it for 10-40 years whether you want to believe it or not.

You are right, but to be fair;

man released from prison. woman said she lied about rape - Bing

We are not talking about rape. We are talking about intimidation and bullying that has been condoned too long by the boys will be boys mentality that has allowed these men to not only get away with it but brag about it to their friends. This behavior is repetitive and easily verified. I worked with an attorney who used to brag that he had been f*****g 20 year olds for 20 years.

To be even MORE fair......

Why Don't Victims of Sexual Harassment Come Forward Sooner? | Psychology Today

Exactly!

Or

So, the Bible certainly does teach that we are born in sin. Did God just arbitrarily decide people were going to be born sinful? The answer is found in connection with the first man, Adam. When Adam was created (without sin) by God and placed in the garden of Eden, he was also given a simple law (Genesis 2:16–17). Adam disobeyed God’s law, and God pronounced him guilty and sentenced him to death. It was Adam’s choice to disobey that made him guilty before God. He was the father of the human race, and his traits were passed on to his children. Romans 5:12 says that sin entered the world through Adam, and death came through sin, because all sinned. As descendants of Adam, we received the sin nature passed down from our fathers. That makes us born in sin, with a natural inclination to do wrong.

We Presbys were not born in sin. Don't know how we got out of it.

Oh wait, I take that back. I was confusing it with our being "saved."

:thumbup:

I know we're going to get mod-smacked for going off topic.:throwtomatoes:

It's related............we all sin, just in different degrees.

:shocked:

Pretty sure ol Matt wasn't thinking about sin

Sexual assault
 

"But problems might develop as these people are exposed. It's getting pretty easy for a woman to simply accuse a man of something that might have happened years ago in order to ruin his life. I would guess that there are plenty of vindictive women out there that might be thinking about getting someone back for some kind of issue that was not sexual harassment."

Two things:

1. why does it matter when it was done or if it ruins his life. If he did it, he ruined her life!
2. where do you get off "guessing" plenty of vindictive women out there that might be thinking about getting someone back for some kind of issue that was not sexual harassment."
That seems very judgmental. It seems you have forgotten to judge the men who have actually done it, no matter when they did it. This is why it has become so pervasive in our society. If a man does something inappropriate he should face up to it. If a woman does something inappropriate she should face up to it. When a person has been sexually assaulted it is far more serious than if they had their purse snatched for instant. A person's psychological well being when bruised usually stays bruised. No excuses should be accepted.

I think how each of us look at this and how we feel about this issue has a lot to do with our own personal history.