I watched an interchange on TV between Governor Chris Christie and a man whose two year old had a seizure disorder that apparently could/might be helped by a rare form of marijuana not covered by a prescription.

Christie was not diplomatic and the dad was not presenting his case very well.

The dad was understandably distraught but the real medical needs for his little one did not seem to be clear and appeared to me to be undoable or unrealistic. Christie was being a politician and a bit crass.

Interchanges like this cause people to become more polarized and then emotional arguments with glittering generalities are thrown at each other and underneath it all is the general suspicion from many of us that a good amount of folks want a new legal way to get high. Which could be alright and make less problems in the courts and we could go after the really bad guys.

I just like it when a spade is called a spade and not salvation for people with toothaches.

And that should be decided by the medical community. :pray:

CNN 'Weed' Documentary Follows Sanjay Gupta's Reversal On Marijuana

I saw the documentary. There was a life-saving benefit to a five year old with seizures...

I am NOT disputing it can happen. I am disputing the way people dispute.

Can I get a ride?

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

Well, if we are talking a strictly limited medical solution, no one disagrees with that. However, the underlying issue as others have noted is the concern it will become liberalized and expanded over time and thus a back door to legalization of pot -- which is far more than just a medical issue.

FL had a reputation for being a "pill factory" not too long ago so it's reasonable to be concerned about the potential for abuse.

About unintended consequences:
 

If pot becomes legal, which I hope never happens, will it be legal for the food companies too? Of course it will. Legal means legal. Will food companies offer brownies laced with marijuana? Marijuana cookies? Marijuana baked into pizza crust? How about many other baked goods like bread, muffins, cakes, and pies?

Other unintended consequences: 63% of people are already overweight and obese. If marijuana is given to elderly people (and others) to treat poor apetite, don't you think it will have the same effect on everyone eles who uses it? So what will the general effect be on the U.S. population? Will we have ever rising numbers of overweight/obese people? Diets are already being undermined in various ways, and this will just add to it, in my opinion.

When marijuana users get the "munchies", they don't get the munchies for healthy whole foods. They get the munchies for high-calorie salty snack-foods like chips 'n' dips, cheese 'n' crackers, or sugary items like pie 'n' ice cream etc..

I hope it does happen

Hmmmmmm .... You seem to know a lot about the munchies! :girlneener:

If the whole world smoked a joint at the same time, There would be world peace for at least two hours.
Followed by a global food shortage.

Oh my, THAT is funny!

Kinda tells you something about "healthy whole foods" and why our society is so fat.

Well, I went to a few parties in my youth that turned out to be pot parties but, like Clinton, I never inhaled. I had a girl-friend who worked under cover for the police department. She invited me to a party that turned out to be a pot party. This was in an appartment building that had a pay-phone in the hallway. At one point she excused herself to use the phone. When she came back she said, "I heard there's going to be a raid so we better get going fast." So we left and the next day there was a big headline in the newspaper on the upper half of the front page: "Pine Street Pot Party Busted."

Another interesting true story: One time there was a rash of nighttime pharmacy burglaries. A gang of burglars would break in to get drugs and money. Several of them would somehow manage to put the store's heavy safe on the back of a pick-up truck. They would then dump the safe in the woods with the idea of going back later to break it open. After there were several stores robbed, she called me one day to tell me she was at the appartment of the gang who robbed the stores. She said she was there by herself and needed someone to talk to. She said the gang had gone to the woods to break open the safe from the last burglary. I believe there were about 6 of them. So I went to see if I could be of some help because she seemed to be extremely nervous about the whole situation.

There wasn't much I could do except to help get her calmed down. She said they would be coming back soon and that I had better leave, so I left. (She said they all had guns.) The next morning there was a big front page headline that the gang had been apprehended. She said when the police came, she left through a back window. Hmmmm! She always managed to get out just in time.

Anyway, the point of the two stories: They were all drug users and this is what happens to drug users.

Narcs as are stool pidgeons are a low form of life. IMHO. Too each their own.

This is what happens to drug users? Really? Based on a couple of pot parties in your youth, you can make this sweeping generalization? I think that there are a lot of MJ users quietly and happily toking away.

[QUOTE=Barefoot;728024]This is what happens to drug users? Really? Based on a couple of pot parties in your youth, you can make this sweeping generalization? I think that there are a lot of MJ users quietly and happily toking away.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

The girlfriend sounds a little squirrelly as well, although VPL seems to have deducted this.

I saw the CNN special from Dr Sanjay Gupta. Anyone who watches it should be satisfied as to medical benefits.

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Yup, I agree. :coolsmiley:

My problem is they don't invite me enough...I keep trying to not inhale but can't help myself...overdose on peanut butter and jelly, followed by laughter..I once watched Reefer Madness and laughed so hard I cried, and I was straight...lol

I keep waiting for an answer for this logical question Villages PL posted above:

"Now I have to wonder why so many people are promoting the legalization of marijuana if people are already being helped medically by the above drugs in pill form."

"Marinol provides standardized THC concentrations, does not contain the other 400 uncharacterized substances found in smoked marijuana, such as carcinogens or fungal spores, and is not associated with the quick high of smoked marijuana," said Neil Hirsch, a spokesman for Marinol manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals.

But Marinol is not the same thing as traditional, smokable marijuana. It is a less complex substance lacking both some of the good components found in traditional marijuana (such as cannabidiol, which has been found to have anti-seizure effects) and the bad or not-yet-fully-understood components (among them potential carcinogens) that can also come with the drug.

Ken Trainer, a 60-year-old Massachusetts resident who has battled Multiple Sclerosis for 25 years, said he has long been smoking marijuana to deal with the regular tremors he gets in his arms and legs.

"If I smoke a joint, the tremors go away most times before the joint is gone," he said. "It makes my life a little easier." Marinol, by contrast, "didn't really do much of anything for me," he said.

Before responding with "This guy just wants to get high," go here for the full article and also read the comments. Does the Marijuana Pill Work?

Comparing pills to pot is like comparing cigarettes to nicorettes. The effects simply are not the same when a single part of the natural product is isolated.

Next time, for the benefit of the marijuana crowd, I will spell it out more carefully that not all marijuana users get arrested. ;)

we like it
 

The simple answer is that folks that used it actually liked it, some far more than alcohol.

I heard on the radio about this NJ decision on medical marijuana for pediatric patients with severe seizure disorders, and looked for some articles.

This seems like a reasonable decision on Christie's part (between a rock and a hard place), but it seems like the jury is still out on whether the benefits outweigh the risks of pediatric patients having it prescribed......

• "Other states allow medical marijuana for children, and parents swear by its power to relieve their children’s debilitating conditions. But it has not been without controversy.
  
• In California, the first state to legalize medical marijuana, doctors have reported concerns about the high number of prescriptions to children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, when the active ingredient in marijuana can, some say, aggravate its symptoms."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/ny...ions.html?_r=0