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manaboutown 07-26-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1428393)
You should read that book I linked. Not all of the mediums are fake.

Several years ago I read the book you cited and provided a link for in post#6.

If Harry Houdini were still around we might be able to find out if she truly is the real deal. Houdini's Greatest Trick: Debunking Medium Mina Crandon | Mental Floss

Taltarzac725 07-26-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1428394)
Several years ago I read the book you cited and provided a link for in post#6.

I would like to talk to my late younger brother who died on December 3, 2014 but know there is a lot of information about him on Google and I would go into such a situation hoping to hear good news from him. I also think he would just go with the idea that I will see loved ones when I see them so why bother me up here with all the drama down there!

biker1 07-26-2017 09:05 AM

What is more likely; that someone can communicate with the dead or shady individuals are preying upon the vulnerabilities of desperate people? This is essentially in the same category as alien visitations: there is no proof that can withstand objective, scientific investigation and more plausible explanations exists.


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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1428393)
You should read that book I linked. Not all of the mediums are fake.

Society for Psychical Research - Wikipedia


Taltarzac725 07-26-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1428399)
What is more likely; that someone can communicate with the dead or shady individuals are preying upon the vulnerabilities of desperate people? This is essentially in the same category as alien visitations: there is no proof that can withstand objective, scientific investigation and more plausible explanations exists.

This might be of interest--

American Society for Psychical Research - Wikipedia

International Association for Near-Death Studies - Wikipedia

IANDS - the most reliable source of information on NDEs

Taltarzac725 07-26-2017 09:21 AM

Suzanne Giesemann - Home | Facebook

I would love to hear from people who have actually been to one of these mediums like Suzanne Giesemann.

manaboutown 07-26-2017 09:23 AM

Although she does not claim to communicate with the dead, per se, this woman, who I have met and spent a little time with when she lived in Laguna Beach in the mid 1990's, has made a fortune with her "Angel" pitch. She is obviously enormously creative. Doreen Virtue - Official Angel Therapy Website

Allegiance 07-26-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1428360)
I believe but cannot show any evidence that would convince anyone. However, there any many people who do swindle people out of their hard earned money by offering them false hope. The book I linked describes a lot of them and how the ghost hunters would expose them as frauds. Ghost Hunters, by Deborah Blum | The Independent

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Sounds like a fascinating book, hope i can get it on my kindle.

Have a lot of amazon Kindle shipping dollars set to expire soon.

biker1 07-26-2017 09:28 AM

You are, of course, free to believe what you wish but there is a real difference between speculation and hard science. Occam's Razor is at work here.



golfing eagles 07-26-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1428412)
You are, of course, free to believe what you wish but there is a real difference between speculation and hard science. Occam's Razor is at work here.

It was also at work for(against) Jodie Foster in "Contact", but you never know. We know so little about how the physics of the universe works that I believe almost anything is possible, although many things are unlikely---"angel therapy" comes to mind. Aliens??? At least the math and probabilities suggest billions of alien races out there. But can, or have any of them visited Earth? Is it even possible to travel at FTL speeds to make interstellar travel feasible? We've only been broadcasting electromagnetic signatures for 100 years, so finding us would have been a complete accident prior to WWI.

Taltarzac725 07-26-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1428417)
It was also at work for(against) Jodie Foster in "Contact", but you never know. We know so little about how the physics of the universe works that I believe almost anything is possible, although many things are unlikely---"angel therapy" comes to mind. Aliens??? At least the math and probabilities suggest billions of alien races out there. But can, or have any of them visited Earth? Is it even possible to travel at FTL speeds to make interstellar travel feasible? We've only been broadcasting electromagnetic signatures for 100 years, so finding us would have been a complete accident prior to WWI.

What did Albert Einstein think about the afterlife and ghosts?

golfing eagles 07-26-2017 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1428425)
What did Albert Einstein think about the afterlife and ghosts?

No idea. But who among us actually thinks like Albert Einstein??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 07-26-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1428427)
No idea. But who among us actually thinks like Albert Einstein??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Stephen Hawking does. Neither seems to really believe in the afterlife.

golfing eagles 07-26-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1428431)
Stephen Hawking does. Neither seems to really believe in the afterlife.

Of course, they are looking for empirical evidence and mathematical proof, not blind faith. The truth, as usual, may be somewhere in between.

Taltarzac725 07-26-2017 10:11 AM

This might be of interest--
Afterlife (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

My friend Tom Snow was dead for maybe five minutes back around 1980 from a number of knife wounds into his heart upper chest area. Lost a lot of higher brain functions like his command of Spanish but maintained others.

He either was scared of the re-action of his peers in the Philosophy Department at the University of Nevada, Reno or just said that he did not remember anything after he was stabbed. The man that did it got off very lightly because of a heat of passion defense as Tom was trying to pick up his wife and I believe that this was rather close to Mustang Ranch but that just might be part of the story that was going around back then.

Tom cracked up when Indiana Jones shot the sword welding thug in Raiders of the Lost Ark when we went to see it. He was still trying to pick up married ladies around me so I kind of started to distance myself. He did have a habit of ****ing off boyfriends and wives. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) - Rotten Tomatoes

He still looks like quite a character.

Rapscallion St Croix 07-26-2017 10:11 AM

If this lady had been born about 2100 years ago, she might have become a Biblical Heroine.

If she were born in the 11th or 12th centuries, she would have been burned at the stake.

But, she was born in enlightened times with more benign mythologies and she and her believers are safe to do as they please. If her believers come to her seeking comfort, pay to achieve that comfort, and walk away comforted, what is wrong with that?

In my opinion, what she provides is far more beneficial to the consumer than weight loss pills, powders, and diets, wrinkle creams, golf improvement gizmos, better gas mileage products, erectile dysfunction cures, or miracle hair growth spray.

Is it real? I don't know. Does a dead person even have a viable spirit? If so, does it have to be a heavenly spirit or could I talk to Hitler, Genghis, Attila, or Joe Paterno?


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