[kbace6]

According to Solar Weather Scientists we are headed for likely a mini ice age in the next 15 years. It seems they are predicting solar weather at a rate of 97% these days based on solar cycles and sunspot totals. And it's using these computer models that are predicting a "Maunder Minimum" starting between 2020 & 2030. The last time we had a Maunder Minimum was the "Little Ice Age" at the end of the 1600's to early 1700's. I guess I'm moving to TV just in time. This certainly explains the fluctuating weather extremes we have seen lately.

The term "Mini" or "Little Ice Age" is a bit deceiving in that it is not expected that the extreme hemispheres will be covered in mile thick ice but rather extended & extreme winters, not unlike the last 2 winters in a row. 1 for the Upper Midwest and just this past year for the Northeast.

I'm not trying to stir up any vitriol, but for those who feel that man's actions have altered the weather, please try to be open to the concept that the most powerful thing in our solar system may be a large contributing factor to our weather fluctuations and man's contributions are likely a secondary factor.

Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2020 | Daily Mail Online[/URL]

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by kbace6

According to Solar Weather Scientists we are headed for likely a mini ice age in the next 15 years. It seems they are predicting solar weather at a rate of 97% these days based on solar cycles and sunspot totals. And it's using these computer models that are predicting a "Maunder Minimum" starting between 2020 & 2030. The last time we had a Maunder Minimum was the "Little Ice Age" at the end of the 1600's to early 1700's. I guess I'm moving to TV just in time. This certainly explains the fluctuating weather extremes we have seen lately.

The term "Mini" or "Little Ice Age" is a bit deceiving in that it is not expected that the extreme hemispheres will be covered in mile thick ice but rather extended & extreme winters, not unlike the last 2 winters in a row. 1 for the Upper Midwest and just this past year for the Northeast.

I'm not trying to stir up any vitriol, but for those who feel that man's actions have altered the weather, please try to be open to the concept that the most powerful thing in our solar system may be a large contributing factor to our weather fluctuations and man's contributions are likely a secondary factor.

Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2020 | Daily Mail Online[/URL]

Isn't the Daily Mail a British tabloid?

[kbace6]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Isn't the Daily Mail a British tabloid?

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It probably is. But according to Tommy Lee Jones in the movie "Men in Black" it's some of the best investigative journalism on the planet.

I looked at it as the reporting of Solar Weather Scientists (a relatively new area of science) and actual observations of the sun's weather. Did you read the article? Or did you just dismiss it due to some disagreement of beliefs? I do my best to stay open to many different points of view. Only actual facts can prove or disprove ones beliefs. And actual experiments should be able to be duplicated by others without manipulation and still get the same results.

I have heard this theory before, but this is the first time I have seen the Maunder Minimum mentioned.

[villagetinker]

Next week (month) there will be another study refuting the first study, which will be followed by numerous other studies, each refuting or confirming a prior study. I will wait for the history book.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by kbace6

It probably is. But according to Tommy Lee Jones in the movie "Men in Black" it's some of the best investigative journalism on the planet.

I looked at it as the reporting of Solar Weather Scientists (a relatively new area of science) and actual observations of the sun's weather. Did you read the article? Or did you just dismiss it due to some disagreement of beliefs? I do my best to stay open to many different points of view. Only actual facts can prove or disprove ones beliefs. And actual experiments should be able to be duplicated by others without manipulation and still get the same results.

I have heard this theory before, but this is the first time I have seen the Maunder Minimum mentioned.

You must have a field day at a supermarket checkout counter. [emoji6]

[kbace6]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

You must have a field day at a supermarket checkout counter. [emoji6]

Good one.

[biker1]

I remember reading about this when I was an undergraduate in the early 70's. The Maunder Minimum coincided with part of the little ice age (1500-mid 1800s). Whether the low in the sunspot activity was the cause is not known with any certainty, if I recall correctly. Current theories of man's impact on climate trends also have uncertainties as those theories are based on modeling results. Climate is complicated.

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

You must have a field day at a supermarket checkout counter. [emoji6]

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by biker1

I remember reading about this when I was an undergraduate in the early 70's. The Maunder Minimum coincided with part of the little ice age (1500-mid 1800s). Whether the low in the sunspot activity was the cause is not known with any certainty, if I recall correctly. Current theories of man's impact on climate trends also have uncertainties as those theories are based on modeling results. Climate is complicated.

I can hardly remember anything as an undergraduate in the early 70's (the late 60's probably didn't help any). But you've piqued my interest and will have to check it out. Thanks.

[rubicon]

I just wish the weather guys could get today's forecast right

[Navy (SSBN 633)]

sorry not drinking the kool aid

[biker1]

One of my meteorology professors had some material he had us read. He had an interest in sun-climate connections. The low in the sunspot activity may have played a roll. The real question for these sorts of thing is always "how much".

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

I can hardly remember anything as an undergraduate in the early 70's (the late 60's probably didn't help any). But you've piqued my interest and will have to check it out. Thanks.

[biker1]

There are two issues. What are you trying to forecast and how do you define the truth. Defining what is "right" is a difficult task all by itself. It's not binary.

Originally Posted by rubicon

I just wish the weather guys could get today's forecast right

[billethkid]

No differentthan the cheif meteorologists attempting to predict how many hurricanes there will be each year.

Knowing what the sun did is a major task unto itself. Imagine the data/info kept over the last thousand years!

I would categorize predicting what the sun will do to be about as productive as predicting who will win the lottery.

[outlaw]

Global Climate Change is settled theology.

[biker1]

I have no idea what that means and I am pretty sure you don't either.

Originally Posted by outlaw

Global Climate Change is settled theology.