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Justputt 08-16-2024 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2360189)
My husband and I were having this discussion and I thought I would get your take. Which is more important the country someone is born in or the parents they’re born to?
Makes zero difference where you were born, but how you were raised and the person you are matter.

Cuervo 08-16-2024 07:20 AM
Silly Question
 
This question is similar to the comedy movie "Trading Places".
Where two brothers (Don Ameche & Ralph Bellamy) make a bet on genetic vs. upbring.
I suggest you watch it.

gorillarick 08-16-2024 07:52 AM
I remember listening to a talk show in Los Angeles where the host said he was walking by the downtown library late (after school hours) the previous day.
Lots of kids playing outside; skateboards, break dancing, smoking.
He decided to walk inside.
The study tables were filled with kids studying. They all looked like Asians.

Their teachers did not influence this, I'm sure.

Stu from NYC 08-16-2024 07:55 AM
Both pretty much equal

FredMitchell 08-16-2024 08:14 AM
It does not matter. The person (singular) did not have a choice of either.

CybrSage 08-16-2024 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2360220)
Who spawned you is 100% irrelevant to importance when it comes to your existence as a human being. Who RAISED you is 100% pertinent, no matter where the raising occurred.
Completely wrong. Genetics plays a big role on who you can become. It is called "a predisposition towards..."
For example, a Native American Indian is far more likely to become an alcoholic if they start drinking alcohol no matter who raises them.

It has also been shown that criminal acts have a genetic"predisposition towards " as well.

How someone is raised is vitally important, but genetics plays a huge role as well. Claiming it does not is a recipe for failure.

CybrSage 08-16-2024 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeN (Post 2360604)
More clickbait
And you were unable to resist clicking on what you incorrectly claim is click bait.
The rest of us know it is not and we find it an interesting topic to discuss.
Out of curiosity, did you learn to incorrectly call things click bait from your parents or from the location you grew up in?

SaucyJim 08-16-2024 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 2360209)
Parents. While the environment will have *some* effect on all children their parents are, by far the greater "influencers" in their lives.
Not just environment. Opportunity. Great parents in a poopy country cannot raise their genius child with the same opportunity.

I vote for the country you’re born in over parents. Sure, a poopy parent can damage a child, but a strong child can overcome said parent and rise to new heights.

Right, dad? lol!!!

matty8 08-16-2024 12:59 PM
Parents! People make a country good or bad. Not the other way around, so I would say parents.

jimjamuser 08-16-2024 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2360189)
My husband and I were having this discussion and I thought I would get your take. Which is more important the country someone is born in or the parents they’re born to?
Well, I would NOT like to have been born in China or North Korea no matter how wonderful my parents might be.

jimjamuser 08-16-2024 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scubawva (Post 2360194)
Flip a coin. Or not.
What’s important is how they are raised. That’s not always in the country in which they were born or the birth parents.
Military kids born around the world, many families have children born in multiple countries. Children are adopted, some from countries other than where they were born. Some are raised by no-count birth parents.
You guys have too much free time 😂
Having free time is the PURPOSE of retirement. You can spend it on hypothetical musings because you have so much time.

jimjamuser 08-16-2024 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2360202)
I think it's a strange question. If you were born in another country to amazing parents, is parentage the important part? If you were born here to horrible parents, does being born in America matter even a little?

It's like asking "which is more important? Being able to communicate, or not walking around the city naked?"

I think ones upbringing is more important than either, since you don't need parents to raise you, and upbringing can be awesome no matter which country you're born in.
"Walking around the city naked"? I believe that Florida has a city for that.

jimjamuser 08-16-2024 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2360220)
And if you were born to wonderful parents who were killed before you turned 1, and you were raised by a family of cretins, how important would your parentage be then?

If you were born to LOUSY parents who went to jail before you turned 1, and were raised by the best people in the world, how important would your parentage be then?

Who spawned you is 100% irrelevant to importance when it comes to your existence as a human being. Who RAISED you is 100% pertinent, no matter where the raising occurred.
Well, GENETIC inheritance IS important. It is the old question of Nature or Nurture ?

jimjamuser 08-16-2024 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2360725)
And you were unable to resist clicking on what you incorrectly claim is click bait.
The rest of us know it is not and we find it an interesting topic to discuss.
Out of curiosity, did you learn to incorrectly call things click bait from your parents or from the location you grew up in?
Good one !

FloridaGuy66 08-16-2024 06:14 PM
Important for what in particular? Neither are important to me.

Much more important if they're decent, law abiding, respectful people.


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