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retiredguy123 08-02-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2121802)
A lot of people seem to be focusing on the fires in California. I'd also like to solve the problem of the floods in the middle and southern part of the country that seem to happen every year.

Like I said, it's not a lack of water problem, it's a distribution problem. We, as a nation, really should be able to deal with these problems that occur year after year. It's really a shame that we don't.

See Post No. 37. The system of lakes and dams constructed along the major rivers at a cost of billions of dollars are preventing a lot of flooding. It is impossible to prevent all flooding but they do very effective job. The Corps of Engineers will construct a concrete dam on a river, and create a lake behind it, and then the dam operators will monitor the rainfall and control the water level of the lake to ensure that the developed property downstream of the dam does not get flooded. The dams have locks that allow boats and barges to pass through the dam without bottoming out. Also, the lake is used as a recreational amenity for people to do boating and camping. The Federal Government has invested trillions of dollars to prevent flooding throughout the country.

Topspinmo 08-02-2022 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2121491)
whatever happened to cloud seeding ?

They didn’t sprout.

MartinSE 08-02-2022 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2121802)
A lot of people seem to be focusing on the fires in California. I'd also like to solve the problem of the floods in the middle and southern part of the country that seem to happen every year.

Like I said, it's not a lack of water problem, it's a distribution problem. We, as a nation, really should be able to deal with these problems that occur year after year. It's really a shame that we don't.

I am pretty sure the corp of engineers is working on that, and making progress. It is a massive job. But, I recall floods 2 or 3 decades ago in the center of the country being MUCH worse and a lot more people evacuated and dying for weeks or longer.

MartinSE 08-02-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2121578)
It would be one thing if New Orleans was AT sea level, but it is not. Look at a topographical map of that region. New Orleans sits in a bowl that is below the levels of both the Gulf and Lake Pontchartrain. Build all the levees you want, sooner or later Mother Nature will show them who's the boss.

It's been working in Holland for a Long time. And Miami is now building dikes and pumping stations to try to save itself. South Florida is about to experience a major reducing in very expensive land. And insurance companies are beginning to balk at insuring anything along the coast. Trillions of dollars of land are going to lose most or all of its value over the next few decades. The economic impact will be not so pretty good. The Pentagon has been including that in it international security briefings for decades. But, what do they know.

mikeycereal 08-03-2022 08:50 PM

Bottled water more expensive than gas? Naw, not at a buck for a 5 gallon refill. Love me some bottled water ever since I worked for a BW company in the 80s. Could taste the difference right away, a lot better. We all knew it was from the tap, but carbon filtered and reverse osmosis. We never tried to pass it as spring water when it was not from a spring. Can't drink tap unless filtered but again depends on taste. But I usually can taste the difference straight from tap, it's gross. Like there's dust in it or a very slight pipe taste. If you can drink the ice water they give you in restaurants... ugh, well that's just bad tasting water. I bring my own small bottle and leave their glass untouched. Pretty much every restaurant I used to sample sip their water, and it didn't pass. I think the ice ruins it too. Some ice just sits around absorbs bacteria and other substances then when added to the water... yuck. No ice for me in my drinks.

Those who drink the tap are just used to it. So they wonder why some prefer not to. Because we don't drink it then when we do it's noticeable. I prefer the taste of reg purified bottled water. I can't even do the water with the splash of fruit or whatever vitamins in it. Just throws it off, tastes slightly bitter, and I can also detect artificial sweetener aftertaste in all drinks that have it. So bottled water for me always.

coffeebean 08-03-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2121118)
There are some things only God can control.

Like what????? Oh, I know.......natural disasters.

Glorantha 08-07-2022 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2121853)
It's been working in Holland for a Long time. And Miami is now building dikes and pumping stations to try to save itself. South Florida is about to experience a major reducing in very expensive land. And insurance companies are beginning to balk at insuring anything along the coast. Trillions of dollars of land are going to lose most or all of its value over the next few decades. The economic impact will be not so pretty good. The Pentagon has been including that in it international security briefings for decades. But, what do they know.

New Orleans ranks high on the list of cities in danger of flooding, but there are larger cities at greater risk including NYC.
Top 10 Cities In America At Risk For Flooding >> Flood Risk America

A lot of areas have a large portion of homes built within the 100 year flood plane. A number of these are in Florida. The Villages region is listed at number 15.
States, Regions & Cities Most Affected by Flooding | Groundworks

mtdjed 08-07-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2121189)
But think of the damage caused by water or lack thereof in those two areas. I would guess that the thousands of homes, cars and other properties that are lost every year add up to much more than the difference between the cost of water and oil. Then we should consider the number of lives lost.

I agree. The earth is a closed system. It's not a matter of a shortage of water. It's a matter of distribution.

Man and animals alike have been working the distribution problem of all assets (and liabilities) in earth's closed system since arrival. Just stating that all of these assets are available in this closed system doesn't mean that there are no shortages or surpluses in specific areas. It is one thing to say simply take water from surplus areas to areas lacking water and many examples have been accomplished. But there are limits people our age should be able to understand. It is not societies lack of desire to solve problems but there are obvious limits which include money, rights, borders, politics, technology, ownership, etc.

Using an unused oil pipeline may sound like a good idea. However, is it coming from an area of surplus to an area of need, is the volume designed for oil anywhere near the need for water, is the available water suitable for usage, etc. We need real solutions, not just "pipe" dreams.

Eg_cruz 08-08-2022 05:04 AM

A couple of years ago you had this conversation with an engineer. We also thought about all the snow in the NE how to capture the melting snow. Basically he said blah blah blah can’t happen.
We called it an interstate water pipelines.

Bay Kid 08-08-2022 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122286)
Like what????? Oh, I know.......natural disasters.

Yes indeed.


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