Murder-suicide due to healthcare costs

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-10-2019, 12:52 PM
ColdNoMore ColdNoMore is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Between 466 & 466A
Posts: 10,509
Thanks: 82
Thanked 1,507 Times in 677 Posts
Unhappy Murder-suicide due to healthcare costs

This shouldn't ever happen...in the world's greatest country. (Click Here)

Quote:
Elderly couple found dead from murder-suicide after they couldn’t afford wife’s healthcare: ‘We will be in the front bedroom’
  #2  
Old 08-10-2019, 01:11 PM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 49,361
Thanks: 9,418
Thanked 3,316 Times in 2,053 Posts
Default

Couple Unable to Pay Medical Care Found Dead in Murder-Suicide | PEOPLE.com

It looks like they were too proud to ask for help from those around them or were not up to keep on fighting.
  #3  
Old 08-10-2019, 01:57 PM
BK001's Avatar
BK001 BK001 is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bay Ridge Brooklyn, NY, The Village of Lynnhaven
Posts: 1,870
Thanks: 83
Thanked 257 Times in 161 Posts
Default

So sad that they felt death was the only recourse. Certainly not Norman Rockwell's America. When oh when will we be great again?
__________________
A great attitude is a choice, not a disposition
  #4  
Old 08-10-2019, 02:14 PM
villagerjack villagerjack is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,361
Thanks: 115
Thanked 133 Times in 62 Posts
Default

Need more details. This guy murdered his wife.
  #5  
Old 08-10-2019, 09:08 PM
villagerjack villagerjack is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,361
Thanks: 115
Thanked 133 Times in 62 Posts
Default

How does anyone know that his wife agreed to be murdered? He shot her in cold blood and this is OK?
  #6  
Old 08-10-2019, 09:36 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 8,503
Thanks: 6,859
Thanked 9,463 Times in 3,089 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by villagerjack View Post
How does anyone know that his wife agreed to be murdered? He shot her in cold blood and this is OK?
So what the heck do you think they should DO about it? Send the dead guy to jail? Have a little compassion. An elderly couple, one of whom is sick, who can't afford to pay the medical expenses...

there's nothing in there indicating what kind of sickness she had, if she was in pain, if she was suffering.

You don't know any of that. So why do you jump to the conclusion that it was "cold blood?"
  #7  
Old 08-10-2019, 10:13 PM
anothersteve's Avatar
anothersteve anothersteve is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,197
Thanks: 382
Thanked 1,668 Times in 529 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazuela View Post
So what the heck do you think they should DO about it? Send the dead guy to jail? Have a little compassion. An elderly couple, one of whom is sick, who can't afford to pay the medical expenses...

there's nothing in there indicating what kind of sickness she had, if she was in pain, if she was suffering.

You don't know any of that. So why do you jump to the conclusion that it was "cold blood?"
There's nothing in there indicating the wife wanted to be killed either. No one can jump to any conclusions.
Steve
  #8  
Old 08-11-2019, 06:12 AM
Bay Kid's Avatar
Bay Kid Bay Kid is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: The Villages and the Northern Neck on the Chesapeake Bay, VA.
Posts: 5,438
Thanks: 1,632
Thanked 3,106 Times in 1,338 Posts
Default

Thanks to the government ruining every working person's insurance back in 2009. Not worth suicide or murder.
  #9  
Old 08-11-2019, 06:15 AM
ColdNoMore ColdNoMore is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Between 466 & 466A
Posts: 10,509
Thanks: 82
Thanked 1,507 Times in 677 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Kid View Post
Thanks to the government ruining every working person's insurance back in 2009. Not worth suicide or murder.
Completely false.
  #10  
Old 08-11-2019, 08:05 AM
graciegirl's Avatar
graciegirl graciegirl is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 40,007
Thanks: 4,853
Thanked 5,506 Times in 1,906 Posts
Send a message via AIM to graciegirl
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdNoMore View Post
Completely false.
You may be trying to make YOUR point, but I believe that many older people who we read about in this situation are in despair for many heartbreaking reasons. Terminal cancer perhaps with great pain, inability to personally, physically lift and care for their beloved spouse and do not want strangers to do it and be separated as in dementia too.

We don't know that many are because of inability to pay for healthcare costs although that is a very hard and awful thing to face.

There are many suicides that we all have heard about right here in The Villages, although the Daily Sun never prints a suicide,( that is old fashioned good journalism) we have heard about them even before the online news reported it.

It is the time of life when all kinds of completely unsolvable things overwhelm people. We may never know what was in their minds, but we can't stop caring and thinking about their loved friends and family.
__________________
It is better to laugh than to cry.

Last edited by graciegirl; 08-11-2019 at 10:55 AM.
  #11  
Old 08-11-2019, 08:20 AM
Chi-Town's Avatar
Chi-Town Chi-Town is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,496
Thanks: 186
Thanked 1,480 Times in 713 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Kid View Post
Thanks to the government ruining every working person's insurance back in 2009. Not worth suicide or murder.
Note: elderly couple. Think Medicare.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
  #12  
Old 08-12-2019, 07:08 AM
Bay Kid's Avatar
Bay Kid Bay Kid is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: The Villages and the Northern Neck on the Chesapeake Bay, VA.
Posts: 5,438
Thanks: 1,632
Thanked 3,106 Times in 1,338 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdNoMore View Post
Completely false.
Maybe to you, but it ruined my private insurance. In 5 years my payments tripled. Then to try to save money I took reduced coverage. I went from great coverage for a family of 3 for $490. per month to a single payer for over $1,500. a month for terrible coverage ('09-'14).

I did not have the luxury of working for a private company or the government so I was on my own. "Those big, bad insurance companies".
  #13  
Old 08-12-2019, 07:35 AM
ColdNoMore ColdNoMore is offline
Sage
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Between 466 & 466A
Posts: 10,509
Thanks: 82
Thanked 1,507 Times in 677 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Kid View Post
Maybe to you, but it ruined my private insurance. In 5 years my payments tripled. Then to try to save money I took reduced coverage. I went from great coverage for a family of 3 for $490. per month to a single payer for over $1,500. a month for terrible coverage ('09-'14).

I did not have the luxury of working for a private company or the government so I was on my own. "Those big, bad insurance companies".
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bay Kid
"...ruining every working person's insurance..."
Still completely false.
  #14  
Old 08-12-2019, 07:48 AM
B-flat B-flat is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 843
Thanks: 398
Thanked 684 Times in 233 Posts
Default

There’s probably more of this that happens that we are unaware of. Cases in point when we had a home in Oak Run Ocala we’d be out on the bicycles frequently. Twice within a few months while on the bicycles we happened upon 2 different scenes where people who had terminal illnesses committed suicide with a firearm. There was never anything anywhere published about the deaths. My late in laws told us of a neighbor of there’s who also put a gun to his head. Once again nothing was ever published.
__________________
E=Fb
The Musical Theory of Relativity
Closed Thread

Tags
murder-suicide, healthcare, couldn’t, sad, dead

Thread Tools

You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 PM.