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Michael G. 05-01-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2428323)
It going to be hard to cut the umbilical cords. Cell phones are like pacifier’s and are attached by umbilical cord to brain. The brain will not function without texting and being pacified by iPhone. People can not stay off for 5 seconds let along 5 minutes.

!00% agree.
Now let's work on getting those dam things out of 5000-pound vehicles going
down the road @ 70mph.

bopat 05-01-2025 12:05 PM

It’s not the phones they worry about, it’s the many cameras and microphones.

Velvet 05-01-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2428681)
My first thought was, how will they report a shooter in the school? How will they call their mom, for comfort and to maybe say goodbye. What a country.

How did they do it for the decades before the cell phone? Why are we raising such fearful children? How many will ever be kidnapped in their life time? But how many will worry about it?

tophcfa 05-01-2025 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2428312)
The next mass school shooting incident should be interesting.

Personally - I think students should have flip-phones, where the only thing they can do is text and call, nothing else. There's no need for them to have smartphones. But in the world we live in now where there are school shootings every year, some kind of communication with the world outside the classroom is imperative.

Perhaps there will be an unintended benefit, they will be getting rid of the cause of many school shootings, social media access. Think about it, guns have been around forever, but the frequency of school shootings is a relatively new thing that coincides with the youth getting hooked on social media? Call it a coincidence, I think not.

Taltarzac725 05-01-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2428756)
Perhaps there will be an unintended benefit, they will be getting rid of the cause of many school shootings, social media access. Think about it, guns have been around forever, but the frequency of school shootings is a relatively new thing that coincides with the youth getting hooked on social media? Call it a coincidence, I think not.

It is usually the alienated teens and early twenty somethings who go on shooting sprees and not the well adjusted teens who are big on sharing stuff among their peers at school . Military weapons have not been accessible to teens all that long .

Pugchief 05-01-2025 02:28 PM

How did a thread on banned cell phones in schools devolve into a discussion of school shootings?

macawlaw 05-01-2025 04:37 PM

This is an overreaction. Students don’t need their phones in class, but any good teacher controls the phones in their room. When my kids were in school, many teaches had a shoe holder with pockets on the wall. Students were assigned a slot number. They put their phone in the slot on the way in and take it out on the way out.

BillyGrown 05-01-2025 04:58 PM

Not Necessarily
 
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Originally Posted by macawlaw (Post 2428778)
This is an overreaction. Students don’t need their phones in class, but any good teacher controls the phones in their room. When my kids were in school, many teaches had a shoe holder with pockets on the wall. Students were assigned a slot number. They put their phone in the slot on the way in and take it out on the way out.

There are obstacles that remove the power from a teacher to control the issue. For instance they couldn’t just grab your phone and put it on their desk and wait for a parent to pick it up. They would be fired. Also, there is likely more than one phone in a classroom, just how many eyes is a teacher supposed to have? 30 kids likely means 30 phones. They should be focusing on teaching, not putting out fires of annoyance. There is no reason a kid needs a phone in class. The phones are not helpful for a students focus of being educated.

bopat 05-01-2025 05:44 PM

When I went to school, calculators were expensive, and they were banned.

Although it was fun doing thousands of math problems by hand, just a few hours with a calculator would suffice.

Same with a phone and a computer. Get with the program, they're tools that give us an edge.

And as an added bonus the kids can make videos and take pictures to keep the teachers honest and on task rather than whatever they're doing these days with all that political crap.

jimjamuser 05-01-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2428285)
New York is finally attempting to correct the cell phone issue in schools. They are now banned in all public educational institutions from “Bell to Bell”. I guess that’s like “Saved by the Bell”?

Anyway, the permission of cell phones in classes has really caused problems. Social media posts and bullying, cheating via phone, unauthorized recording, distraction as well as all the other negatives will be curbed. Kudos NY!

NY school phones: Hochul'''s proposed '''bell to bell''' ban draws mixed reaction across New York districts - ABC7 New York

I think that it is a good idea. I just HOPE that they can enforce it. There are a lot of people trying DESPERATELY to "dumb- down" America.

jimjamuser 05-01-2025 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2428319)
Educational staff and administrators can have phones. I can’t think of an incident yet where a smart phone saved someone’s life in a school shooting. I guess it could happen someday.

The NEWEST smart phones are coming out with a BEAR SPRAY capability.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-01-2025 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2428319)
Educational staff and administrators can have phones. I can’t think of an incident yet where a smart phone saved someone’s life in a school shooting. I guess it could happen someday.

Letting your mom know that you're alive and uninjured is kinda, I dunno, a good idea. Or that the killer is dead, and you think your foot is broken. Or that the teacher is dead and her cell phone is under her dead body otherwise maybe she would've called the police instead of waiting for you to call your mom. Your mileage may vary.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-01-2025 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2428731)
THIS is your concern? There's a rule of logic called "The 2% Rule", i.e., if there's less than a 2% chance of something happening, you shouldn't concern yourself with it. What is the likelihood of a school shooting? 1/1000th of 1%?

Primary focus should be keeping kids focused on schoolwork.

The likelihood of a school shooting is 100% for all schools where there have been a school shooting.

The likelihood has increased significantly since Columbine. In 2024 alone, there were 39 school shootings across the country. That's almost one in every contiguous state. So the odds of it happening in your state, in 2024, was over 80:1

jimjamuser 05-01-2025 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gettingoutofdodge (Post 2428680)
There is a program/pouch (yondr) now being used in some NYC schools that locks the cell phone up while the student is in school and unlocks when the day is over. I’m not sure how it works but it does.

My son is a K-8 Principal and though all the above problems mentioned above are real, not having cell phones is beneficial in other ways. It cuts down on social media usage, bullying and going to the bathrooms to meet other students, rampant texting during lessons and so much more.

He has used this pouch for two years and it works.

Good for him. The good points of stopping cell phone use outweigh the bad points.

biker1 05-01-2025 06:12 PM

When I went to school, calculators were just starting to show up. I had a couple of friends with $400 HP35s. You could use them in exams but they weren't going to help when the questions were all of the form "show this" and "prove that". I suspect things haven't changed much in 50 years.


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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2428792)
When I went to school, calculators were expensive, and they were banned.

Although it was fun doing thousands of math problems by hand, just a few hours with a calculator would suffice.


Same with a phone and a computer. Get with the program, they're tools that give us an edge.

And as an added bonus the kids can make videos and take pictures to keep the teachers honest and on task rather than whatever they're doing these days with all that political crap.



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