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Bill14564 09-06-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2253583)
I highly doubt the lawmakers in NYC and in other areas around the world (yes, WORLD) were concerned about driveway traffic when they wrote new laws that limit STRs. At this point, It is you against the world. I wonder who is going to win.

I am vocal but nearly alone. As another has pointed out, proposals are made every year to weaken the Florida law but they have not been successful yet.

ron32162 09-06-2023 09:12 AM

Yea right all states need to follow how N.Y is run

Bill14564 09-06-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2253569)
TV has let this get out of control here. They should enforce the minimum rental period to one week, not overnight, not a weekend. TV is a retirement community, not a resort or hotel

Is it out of control? There have been a few issues and a few more complaining but there are thousands of rental properties. If things were out of control I would expect more than a few issues.

I have rented for a short term though they called it a Lifestyle Visit at the time. As a short term renter I take some of these comments personally. There have been hundreds (thousands?) of these visits but have there been hundreds of problems?

As for a time limit on rental periods, see post #20.

Maker 09-06-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2253569)
TV has let this get out of control here. They should enforce the minimum rental period to one week, not overnight, not a weekend. TV is a retirement community, not a resort or hotel

That time restriction would be against state law.
Prior posts have links to the law.

Anything people propose restricting STRs would directly impact Morse because the Lifestyle Visit is a STR program. That's not happening.

Joe C. 09-06-2023 09:44 AM

Just what we need.......another law telling you what you can and can't do with your property. We have too many laws regulating too many things and our freedoms are being choked to death.
On the other hand, if a house is being rented continuously, it should be considered "commercial" and if it's in a residential zoned area, it should be bought to the owner's attention. I feel for those who are affected by inconsiderate renters, but we don't need LAWS. They stifle our FREEDOM.

golfing eagles 09-06-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2253609)
Just what we need.......another law telling you what you can and can't do with your property. We have too many laws regulating too many things and our freedoms are being choked to death.
On the other hand, if a house is being rented continuously, it should be considered "commercial" and if it's in a residential zoned area, it should be bought to the owner's attention. I feel for those who are affected by inconsiderate renters, but we don't need LAWS. They stifle our FREEDOM.

I hate too many laws as well. But in this case, without force of law, all you can do about a revolving door motel next door to you is use harsh language

Vermilion Villager 09-06-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2253379)
That was my point. Features are already in place. No need for a special enforcement team. I doubt the software can catch people who rent less than 30 days on and off. Neighbors reporting would help.

Do something like Texas and Florida do on another topic. Allow citizens to sue the violater for up to $10,000.:pepper2:

ithos 09-06-2023 10:31 AM

I remember one time in the late 80's I parked my personal pickup in a South Florida condo and was left a note that they were not allowed. Next time it would be towed.

If they allow rules like that then what restrictions can't they impose.

Joe C. 09-06-2023 11:02 AM

....or some serious intimidation.

Sandy and Ed 09-06-2023 12:57 PM

This banter back-and-forth is great, but can we at least agree that no permanent resident Of The Villages wants to see this become a community of short term rentals

BrianL99 09-06-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2253612)
I hate too many laws as well. But in this case, without force of law, all you can do about a revolving door motel next door to you is use harsh language

At the risk of scaring people, by suggesting they use some common sense and be true to their likely political leanings (given TV is about 75% Republican) ....

The Republican mantra has historically been: "less government is better government".

As is the case with most things in life, Short Term Rentals exist in a cycle and are self-limiting.

Once there are enough Short Term Rentals to meet demand, investors will stop buying them. I know folks think that everyone in the world wants to live or vacation in TV, but that's simply not true. Based on what I've seen over the last year, the saturation point is close. There always seems to be units available for short term rental and for investors, that doesn't work. Most of them need to maintain high occupancy. Also, the current interest rates aren't conducive to buying for Investment.

It's unlikely the TV will turn into an STR playground. In the meantime, enjoy the property value appreciation the STR market has provided.

Also, I think it's inevitable that TV/CDD will at some point, step in and exercise more control over Guest Passes. That would be a very simple process, that would take away a lot of the STR pain.

BrianL99 09-06-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2253679)
This banter back-and-forth is great, but can we at least agree that no permanent resident Of The Villages wants to see this become a community of short term rentals

No.

Villagers want it both ways.

They want to complain about "renters" & "snow birds", but can't wait to talk about their increasing property value/equity in their home. All of which is driven by the demand created by renters & snow birds.

Vermilion Villager 09-06-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2253681)
At the risk of scaring people, by suggesting they use some common sense and be true to their likely political leanings (given TV is about 75% Republican) ....

The Republican mantra has historically been: "less government is better government".

As is the case with most things in life, Short Term Rentals exist in a cycle and are self-limiting.

Once there are enough Short Term Rentals to meet demand, investors will stop buying them. I know folks think that everyone in the world wants to live or vacation in TV, but that's simply not true. Based on what I've seen over the last year, the saturation point is close. There always seems to be units available for short term rental and for investors, that doesn't work. Most of them need to maintain high occupancy. Also, the current interest rates aren't conducive to buying for Investment.

It's unlikely the TV will turn into an STR playground. In the meantime, enjoy the property value appreciation the STR market has provided.

Also, I think it's inevitable that TV/CDD will at some point, step in and exercise more control over Guest Passes. That would be a very simple process, that would take away a lot of the STR pain.

WOW!!!! you win the award for making ANY topic political!!! :eclipsee_gold_cup:

FYI....Trickle down economics was also a republican thing. After 40 years we all see how well that one worked!!!

Velvet 09-06-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2253597)
Is it out of control? There have been a few issues and a few more complaining but there are thousands of rental properties. If things were out of control I would expect more than a few issues.

I have rented for a short term though they called it a Lifestyle Visit at the time. As a short term renter I take some of these comments personally. There have been hundreds (thousands?) of these visits but have there been hundreds of problems?

As for a time limit on rental periods, see post #20.

Yes, it is out of control. I have been coming to TV to visit parents for 30 years etc and now have a home here and yes the rental business is out of control. YOU may be aware of only a few issues, but that is only your situation. Lifestyle is run by the sales for the developer it is not in the same CATEGORY as the STRs we are talking about. You are welcome to a Lifestyles visit. The other types of STR you can take personally.

Velvet 09-06-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2253600)
That time restriction would be against state law.
Prior posts have links to the law.

Anything people propose restricting STRs would directly impact Morse because the Lifestyle Visit is a STR program. That's not happening.

Time to change the state law then.


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