No, just in local elections. Not state or national. Not illegal immigrants, just legal immigrants but non-citizens

Well, there are several communities in the US where non-citizens can vote in local elections.

You may have some of those non-citizens living close to you in The Villages. I know of 4 couples in The Villages where the husband or wife has retained citizenship in their native Canada, Britain, and Netherlands while married to a US citizen. I am sure they would not like to be lumped together with your illegal aliens or extraterrestrial aliens. In fact, they may give you some lumps!

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Now now, try not to get your apples mixed up with your oranges.

Non-citizens are welcome in TV (my daughter in law for example is a Brit as is one of my neighbors). But, just as I don't expect to vote in Canada, Britain or wherever, my point is a very simple one, your argumentative obfuscation notwithstanding.

To wit, if one wants to vote in an American election, one needs to be an American citizen.

Another vote for a voter ID being required. I know of no one who can not get an ID. I highly doubt that this requirement would prevent any person from voting

Exactly. Your last sentence is perfectly stated.

No, one does NOT have to be an American citizen to vote in American elections. There are several communities in America that allow non-citizens to vote in local elections.

You may not like it but it does happen.

You may not like the idea of legal recreational marijuana but it does happen.

You may not like the idea of legal gay marriage but it does happen.

It all depends on which state or community you live in.

there is just no accounting for what "some" will do....eh?

To argue that, since this type of voting happens in several localities, let’s therefore allow it everywhere is not persuasive, as well as wrongheaded IMHO.

Be that as it may, how about you and I recognize that we will never agree on my previous assertion … ie if one wants to vote in an American election one needs to be an American citizen. I think most Americans do in fact agree with that even if you don’t.

As far as recreational marijuana or gay marriage goes, that’s best handled in a separate thread if you really want to discuss those again.

Now, how in the world do you limit the non citizens to just voting in local elections instead of any and all elections. When you go to the polling place, all you are asked is to confirm your street address. Not one time have I ever been asked if I was a citizen of this country. Any person who has an address and drivers license can vote. Now, when I got a drivers license in Florida originally, I had to show proof of ID, (passport), proof of marriage ( copy of marriage license), and I think I had to show a document (bills)from my Florida residence with the address on it. But I think someone commented on this site recently that all they had to do was show their former license from the previous state. So , again who monitors whether the non citizens vote only in the local elections or all of them. I don't personally believe they should even be voting in local elections . One of my best friends, who is a Canadian, lived in this country for many years, and didn't vote in local elections. How do you know how long the non-citizens will even be in the area. They could be voting in areas that they may live in for a year or two, but if there are enough of them (like colleges, workers transferred here temp. for their jobs), the votes they cast could have long term reprecussions. I have no doubt it is being done----but that certainly doesn't mean it is right.

Easy enough. Google to find out which communities in the US allows non-citizens to vote, call or email their election officials and ask them your question. That way you could get your question answered in it's entirety and directly from the source.

I am talking about the people at the polls, who are on the front lines. I am sure they don't know the difference. And that is not meant to be a dig against them. I doubt most of them have even heard that non citizens are being allowed to vote. And they don't have time or training to try to distinguish between...oh, ok...you aren't a citizen, but you can vote for A,B but not C. Now, you are not a citizen, but you can only vote for A. But I got special permission to vote in A, B, C and D this year. ETC....Everyone in this country should ALL be voting under the same rules, and that is that ONLY legal citizens of this United States are allowed to vote in any election. Any variance to that is wrong in my opinion. Non citizens being allowed to vote is just another right we are giving up, and I can't believe that anyone could even think it is right. I wish everyone who thinks that way would go to a VA Hospital and talk to the men and women who fought numerous wars to give us the right to vote, and see what the Veterans have to say about people throwing that right away, or talk to families who lost a loved one who fought for us to have the right to vote. Or the numerous Veterans here in TV. I am going to try to make this my last post about this because no one will EVER change my mind about this.

those in favor of allowing non US citizens to vote in ANY election need to keep an eye on the potential long term that includes future vote seeding.

I have yet to see or hear one reasonable reason why a non US citizen should be allowed to vote.......because there is not one!

The Villages allows Non US Citizens to vote for local govenment
 

Today being election day, I thought I would remind everyone to vote. And if you live north of 466 and you are not a citizen of the US you may vote also!

Now you can only vote in a local election and it requires you to go to a separate polling site, but you can vote if you own a home. You see the Villages is one of the communities in America that allows voting by non-citizens in local elections. They have worked out the details and safety mechanisms they feel they require. You may vote in person or may already have voted by absentee ballot.

http://www.districtgov.org/projects/...on%20Sheet.pdf

Please note: This landowner election LIMITS voting to ONE VOTE PER ADDRESS/PROPERTY/HOUSEHOLD! It is a landowner election and NOT a general government election.