"In this case the college in AZ called the police but he was never hospitalized. That is why I am calling for a mandatory reporting law that would require at least educators, medical personnel, social workers, and police to notify the sheriff of a mentally ill person so they could be evaluated."

So true.... and here, "Enter the feel-good psychologists" that the courts get advisement from . . . the psychologists whose goal is to protect the "self-esteem" and "privacy" of perpetrators...the same psychologists who say it is okay to release from prison child rapists and offenders like the one that tortured and killed little Jessica Lunsford.

I remember reading opinions of prison and mental institution psychologists opining on how treatment and "rehabilitation" goes with an animal like Couey who ADMITTED he could not control his heinous impulses. The feel-good psychologists described "therapy that works" in which they train the offender to "recognize their impulses building, and teach them to 'stop thinking those thoughts'". I could not make this stuff up. I read it in national newspapers. It makes me want to scream.

These are the psychologists who allow known, twisted minds to roam about in society. They are the same ones who will advise the courts on committing somebody like this AZ shooter before he goes on a killing spree.

And then we have those who will label you a "racist" if you report a person of color or minority ethnicity, for acting like the AZ or VA Tech shooter.

The person reporting such a ticking time bomb can easily be made the villain now, simply by calling them a "racist" or a "bigot" over and over in the media....just as that loose cannon sheriff in AZ has done by saying 'bigotry' and 'hate' speech caused these killings. He even labeled the population of Arizona as the "mecca of bigotry".

I think it's quite bigoted and dangerous to label millions of people as bigots for what ONE depraved mind did.

Now someone is getting closer to the real reason we have
 

loose cannons and some dangerous folks in our midst.
Good start Jane52.

btk

Imho
 

Psychologists are there after the fact, the root of the evil has to begin at home and I'm sure future headlines will indicate this....I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule but it was disclosed that his home life was "odd" at best....We shall see...

Jane,

I agree it is wrong to label a whole group for the failure of a few. Psychology is a very misunderstood profession to be sure. When I was an educator I was able to find a few really helpful ones.

BUT.... It is becoming more and more an exact science as we can image the brain and understand more about how it functions and malfunctions. There are some very good people who are psychologists and some on this forum who have labored long and hard in that field. Not all psychologists are clinical psychologists and not all psychologists are as effective as often as people wish they were. Some are really out there, but that is true of every profession. If common sense could be packaged and sold, some people still wouldn't buy it.

My suggestions for mandatory reporting of mental health issues is to HELP these suffering people, not to harm them. They cannot help themselves.. they are ill. We need to stop being afraid and report them so they can be helped, and in the process, make it safer for everyone.

You are so right, and I hope my post was not taken as painting the whole profession with a broad brush of stereotyping. Our family has benefited hugely from an extremely astute, wise and godly clinical family-marriage counselor (psychologist). I was expressing my frustration with the fact that so many of these killers and offenders were known to be dangerous out in society when they were released from jail/penitentiary. I meant to comment only on the psychologists/psychiatrists who are involved in releasing convicts so heinous and mentally ill that most people would say they are impossible to ever "cure" or rehab completely.

Here is an article that touches on just some of the terrible consequences:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...xez.asp?page=1

Gabby recovering
 

So glad she is doing well.....So so sorry for the victims and their families....Tribute to victims and their families hopefully will help to heal our country. Again time will tell.

I so agree,Jebartle, and with you too, Jane. What fine people are on this forum. Thoughtful, considered and kind.

Gracegirl, and you wonder
 

Why we love you!....Thanks girl!

Yep. Remember how after 9/ll the government kept saying "Report anything suspicious!" Then late at night at a diner a woman hear some Arabic looking guys discussing what sounded like a terrorist plot. She called the police. Turned out she was right, but it was their idea of a joke. She, of course, was smeared by the press as some sort of goofy redneck racist.

What about the folks who pointed out the intentionally suspicious behaviour of "the flying Imams?" When the dust finally cleared the Imams got a nice cash settlement and somehow everybody else turned out to be a bunch of haters and racists.
The government and lawyers are teaching us to just shut up.