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RICH1 04-04-2023 05:48 AM

10k oil changes ! Lol your bearings hate you and so does the next owner.. an oil change is a small price to pay.. I’ve torn down many of engines because of 10k mile oil changes…

mkjelenbaas 04-04-2023 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2204027)
I went to a dealership that sells/services my SUV.
Had the oil/filter changed and my engine takes 6 qtrs. and 4oz. of synthetic oil.

Dealership change me for 7 quarts, not in bulk, by the qt. bottles.
That means they kept 28oz. and charged me, 32oz. (1qt.)
32oz. - 4oz. = 28oz.

And your point is??

Scbang 04-04-2023 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2204050)
I just paid $49.95 for my vehicle 4.4 quarts my 2013 Toyota doesn’t leak or burn oil never need to add oil change oil every 10,000 miles.
Flat charge billing if my vehicle was SUV/truck $59.95 for Synthetic.

Where did you get it done that cheap?

bowlingal 04-04-2023 06:25 AM

should have gone to Sumter Tire

phousel 04-04-2023 06:27 AM

I don't believe the OP said that regular & synthetic oil were used.

rsmurano 04-04-2023 06:34 AM

I’ve never heard of this ratio. If you are putting in synthetic oil, all oil, not so many ounces are synthetic.
I’m guessing they added some additive to the oil and that additive comes in a small bottle

Bill14564 04-04-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2204204)
10k oil changes ! Lol your bearings hate you and so does the next owner.. an oil change is a small price to pay.. I’ve torn down many of engines because of 10k mile oil changes…

And yet... for newer vehicles 10K or 365 days is the recommendation. I followed that recommendation for my previous vehicles which I traded in at 160K-200K miles. (16-20 oil changes).

srswans 04-04-2023 07:07 AM

Yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2204027)
I went to a dealership that sells/services my SUV.
Had the oil/filter changed and my engine takes 6 qtrs. and 4oz. of synthetic oil.

Dealership change me for 7 quarts, not in bulk, by the qt. bottles.
That means they kept 28oz. and charged me, 32oz. (1qt.)
32oz. - 4oz. = 28oz.

The cars I’ve had recently were spec’d with fractional quarts for oil changes - I always get billed for full quarts (e.g., 7.4 and pay for 8). No big deal.

I know ppl who change their own oil and avoid this issue.

The fraction may have to do with liters and quarts being a little different.

Nevinator 04-04-2023 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2204027)
I went to a dealership that sells/services my SUV.
Had the oil/filter changed and my engine takes 6 qtrs. and 4oz. of synthetic oil.

Dealership change me for 7 quarts, not in bulk, by the qt. bottles.
That means they kept 28oz. and charged me, 32oz. (1qt.)
32oz. - 4oz. = 28oz.

You didn’t mention the make, model and engine size of your vehicle. The reason I ask is because depending on the oil filter location on the engine, the fluid capacity of the oil filter needs to be added to the crankcase capacity.

Overall, as another person suggested, unless you requested a very specific type or viscosity motor oil, most dealerships use bulk oil (55 gal. Drum or Bulk Tank) hence their cost of good is significantly less than selling by the bottle. I suspect that this dealership (stealership) is overcharging customers by claiming they used bottled oil when in fact they used a (same quality) but lower cost product.

If you have concerns, I’d suggest going back and having a face to face conversation with the Service Manager.

I’d also suggest checking your oil to ensure that your crankcase is not overfilled. With newer engines, overfilling can result in the crankshaft coming in direct contact with the oil which can cause frothing and create engine issues.

tuccillo 04-04-2023 07:14 AM

Oil capacities are typically labelled in the owner's manuals as "with filter change", or some similar language.

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Originally Posted by Nevinator (Post 2204243)
You didn’t mention the make, model and engine size of your vehicle. The reason I ask is because depending on the oil filter location on the engine, the fluid capacity of the oil filter needs to be added to the crankcase capacity.

Overall, as another person suggested, unless you requested a very specific type or viscosity motor oil, most dealerships use bulk oil (55 gal. Drum or Bulk Tank) hence their cost of good is significantly less than selling by the bottle. I suspect that this dealership (stealership) is overcharging customers by claiming they used bottled oil when in fact they used a (same quality) but lower cost product.

If you have concerns, I’d suggest going back and having a face to face conversation with the Service Manager.

I’d also suggest checking your oil to ensure that your crankcase is not overfilled. With newer engines, overfilling can result in the crankshaft coming in direct contact with the oil which can cause frothing and create engine issues.


MrFlorida 04-04-2023 07:14 AM

The trouble with letting others change your oil is that you really don't know what they are putting in your car, they may not even change your oil filter, how would most people know ?

JRcorvette 04-04-2023 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2204027)
I went to a dealership that sells/services my SUV.
Had the oil/filter changed and my engine takes 6 qtrs. and 4oz. of synthetic oil.

Dealership change me for 7 quarts, not in bulk, by the qt. bottles.
That means they kept 28oz. and charged me, 32oz. (1qt.)
32oz. - 4oz. = 28oz.

Next time ask for the partial qt bottle back since you paid for it (at an inflated price)
I would just got to a quick change oil place and not to the dealership if it was just for an oil change. Save a lot of money.

jimkerr 04-04-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2204072)
You are getting to involved if you know to the ounce how much oil your car takes. Once a quart is open you pay for the whole thing. Did you ask for that open bottle? I have paid anywhere from $40 to 90 for an oil change with know idea as to how much oil to the ounce that they use.

They don’t use bottles. Have you never seen how they change and refill your oil?

retiredguy123 04-04-2023 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2204248)
The trouble with letting others change your oil is that you really don't know what they are putting in your car, they may not even change your oil filter, how would most people know ?

Sometimes, I will pull out the dipstick to see if the oil looks new and that the level is correct.

Heytubes 04-04-2023 07:25 AM

Just be glad you don’t have to pay big bucks for a Mercedes oil change.


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