[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by rdhdleo

Excellent, VERY intelligent response and well said!

Are you more afraid of Radical Islamics than you are of the other's mentioned?

If a bridge blew up today, or a city had their water supply poisoned, what group would you suspect first?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by rdhdleo

Yes Really! The hope is one day the current extremists will also be defeated and or contained. Without hope of this the future would look bleak. I prefer to have hope. I still agree with that posters response. We all have our own opinions. If you're at peace with yours then all is good but I will not let fear rule my life.

I am certainly not at peace with my views. The subject of this thread is to be honest.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by DDoug

..... why does the majority of the terrorists and the attacks on the world stem from the Muslim faith people of the world. Now before you say anything I know its not all the attacks but it sure looks like most of them. This is a question I wish could be answered.

You got it right but, evidently, there are a lot of people who can't take hearing the simple truth. You pointed out that you didn't mean ALL of the attacks but that makes no difference to those who are in denial.

Has anyone even tried to answer your question? Why is most of the terrorism [currently] coming from the Muslim faith?

We are talking about organized terrorism, not some nut who takes it upon himself to kill an abortion doctor or blow up a federal building.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by redwitch

I can't say I'm afraid of fanatics but I truly loathe them. Fanaticism is a true evil. Extremists have no boundaries, whether Islamics, Christians or of some other bent.

I can't say I blame many that hate America. While the American people are some of the most generous people that exist, the same cannot be said of our government. We've supported some truly evil regimes to protect American businesses and interests. Frequently at the expense of the people who lived there. Think of Vietnam, Nicaragua, Argentina, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, The Philippines and on and on. We haven't always been the good guys.

But, back to subject. Yes, there are Islamic extremists who want to destroy America. There are Nazis and skinheads in this country who see nothing wrong with maiming, torturing and killing those who are different or hold opposing views. There are religious fanatics in America who are more than willing to start modern-day Crusades. There are anti-abortion foes who think killing doctors and blowing up clinics with people inside is perfectly acceptable. So, I'm not afraid of Islamic extremists. I'm afraid of any group or person that is willing to harm others for their point of view. Evil is not limited to one group or one religion or one skin color.

Most people I know agree with that. However. Wouldn't you say that Islamic terrorists pose the greatest risk at this time, in the world today to US......????

[Villages PL]

It has been said that, "A so-called Muslim who kills innocent people is not a real Muslim. Does it help to know that when they do claim to be Muslims?

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by tucson

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/sp...-north-america

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Most people I know agree with that. However. Wouldn't you say that Islamic terrorists pose the greatest risk at this time, in the world today to US......????

I feel NO personal fear from Islamic terrorists. I have more concern about my safety driving on the public highways almost daily. If I were a Jew in America I would have more fear of white supremacist groups. If I were black in America, I would fear neighborhood and drug related crime, not to mention white supremacists. If I were to go into Mexico, Central, or South America, I would fear the drug cartel would be the greatest risk. If I were South Korean I would think that North Korea was the greatest risk. If I were Palestinian I would fear Isreal was the greatest risk. Islamic terrorists are a threat to many people and are a perversion of their faith, but there are many risks that are more imminent for many people.

[Rags123]

Interesting.....

"An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.
"Princeton University’s Loon Watch compiled the following from the FBI’s data (as explained below, this chart is over-simplified … and somewhat inaccurate):

Latino 42 %
Left Wing extremists 24%
Others 16%
Jewish extremists 7%
Islamic extremists 6%
Communists 5 %"

Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil Washington's Blog

There are some footnotes from the author worth noting...


" According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

(The chart is misleading in several ways. For example, it labels “Extreme Left Wing Groups” and “Communists”, but not “Extreme Right Wing Groups” or “Fascists”. It should have either discarded all partisan labels, or included labels for both ends of the spectrum. In addition, “Latinos” is misleading, as Loonwatch is actually referring to Puerto Rican separatist groups, Cuban exile groups and the like. However, as shown below, many of the basic concepts are correct.)"

Bottom line is the terrorist we fear the most is the one that has threatened us. I am threatened by Black Muslims because I am white....I am threatened by Islamic extremists because they publicy state they want to kill me because of my country.

Fact is right now, the extremist in Islam are the ones making the noise (in every way) and thus are going to be the most feared. AND frankly with just cause. They have been successful and efficient at killing.

I also believe the moderate Islam totally understands why this feeling...I am not saying they agree nor do they like it...but they do know why.

Anyone who harbors ammunition.....announces hate and warning to harm....has a current track record and is currently very active will get my attention at least. They could be any body of people who wish harm to me or my family, and I will fear them. You may feel it is some kind of "nice" thing to do, but you will not convince me nor lower my level of fear.

[jbdlfan]

In reading this.....It is kind of silly to be worried about Islamic Extremists when you look at how many of us have been killed in other ways. Interesting read.... Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil Washington's Blog

Please read this if you want to truly be informed statistically.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

In reading this.....It is kind of silly to be worried about Islamic Extremists when you look at how many of us have been killed in other ways. Interesting read.... Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil Washington's Blog

Please read this if you want to truly be informed statistically.

What group do you think about when you travel by plane? Are you defending the extreme Islamic terrorists? Because the United States government takes them very seriously. I don't think the government is "silly" to do so.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

What group do you think about when you travel by plane?

I think about the group that's in front of me and whether or not they're going to recline their seats right away.

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

What group do you think about when you travel by plane? Are you defending the extreme Islamic terrorists? Because the United States government takes them very seriously. I don't think the government is "silly" to do so.

Not saying your feelings are silly. Just saying the foundation of these feelings are misplaced. Of course I'm not defending ANY terrorists, but for goodness, no, I don't worry about Islamic extremists when I fly. I worry if my pilot is drunk, if my luggage will be lost or if I will have a car waiting at the counter.
Now I do worry when I drive in Orlando at night, idiot drivers on I4 and the Turnpike and whether or not some people might actually stop at stop signs.
"In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims." This is almost statistically insignificant. Not my numbers....
"Between 1970 and 2011, 32 percent of the perpetrator groups were motivated by ethnonationalist/separatist agendas, 28 percent were motivated by single issues, such as animal rights or opposition to war, and seven percent were motivated by religious beliefs. In addition, 11 percent of the perpetrator groups were classified as extreme right-wing, and 22 percent were categorized as extreme left-wing."

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jbdlfan

Not saying your feelings are silly. Just saying the foundation of these feelings are misplaced. Of course I'm not defending ANY terrorists, but for goodness, no, I don't worry about Islamic extremists when I fly. I worry if my pilot is drunk, if my luggage will be lost or if I will have a car waiting at the counter.
Now I do worry when I drive in Orlando at night, idiot drivers on I4 and the Turnpike and whether or not some people might actually stop at stop signs.
"In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims." This is almost statistically insignificant. Not my numbers....
"Between 1970 and 2011, 32 percent of the perpetrator groups were motivated by ethnonationalist/separatist agendas, 28 percent were motivated by single issues, such as animal rights or opposition to war, and seven percent were motivated by religious beliefs. In addition, 11 percent of the perpetrator groups were classified as extreme right-wing, and 22 percent were categorized as extreme left-wing."

Uh huh. We are talkin' NOW. And we are not talking Muslims, we are talking Islamic terrorists. Are you afraid of Islamic terrorists? If someone blew up a bridge or poisoned a big city water supply or sent Anthrax to the Office of the President of the United States, who would you think of first? We are not talking about all of the bad folks. We are talking about being honest about who is out to get us.

[jbdlfan]

Sure, I might have thought that if I hadn't actually did a bit of research and realized how small a chance it is that they would be the guilty party. I mean seriously, how can you ignore the facts and statistics? I can't.
If we are talking American soil, odds are that it will be someone other than an Islamic Extremist.

[DDoug]

The only way,and military men will agree, to maintain peace is to have a large army. Say what you will but that is a fact. Do you have insurance on your car ,why, you don't need it till you need it but then it's to late if you don't have it. Yes this is a little off the original subject.

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Most people I know agree with that. However. Wouldn't you say that Islamic terrorists pose the greatest risk at this time, in the world today to US......????

No, Gracie, I don't. I think our greatest risk comes from within. We've become so afraid of being hurt that we're willing to give up our basic freedoms. That, to me, is far more dangerous than anything that can be done by any terrorist.

Is there a chance that there will be another terrorist attack on American soil? I'd say more than likely. Would I prefer it not happen? You're darn toot in'! Am I willing to give up my right to search and seizure? Freedom of speech? Right to assembly? No way on earth!

I do believe in profiling but real profiling, not stopping someone because they are the wrong skin color, have a hooked nose or wear non-Western clothing. Get the Israelis here and have them teach TSA workers how to profile, what behavior to look for ... Not this search everyone and, should you LOOK Muslim, be prepared for major harassment (and it amazes how many can't tell a Sikh from a Muslim in this nation).