To Carl
1. I have done as much research as I can and have found no mention of the AR-15 used as a hunting weapon. In 1959 it was produced as a small arms rifle for the US military later to morph into the M16. Besides if you need 30 rounds to kill an animal maybe try something else.
2. You are absolutely correct. The No fly list is a joke.
3,No one really knows how many 15's are around. No one has to tell. Manufacturers or dealers. And 8 mass killings since last June is not enough to convince you that perhaps achange is needed.
4. You are correct. More than the 15 were banned at the same time. Any semi-automatic weapon and large capacity magazines also were banned EX. AK-47s
5. Again you are correct. Nothing is 100% perfect but it is far too easy for anyone to obtain these weapons of mass destruction. There has to be a better way.

glad to hear it
 

very sensible post.

We had a good discussion. We have agreed not to agree. My last comment is a very simple one. No one in America should own or want a weapon that allows them to take 50 innocent lives in the blink of an eye. Hunt with something else. As I wrote earlier if you need 30 rounds to to kill an animal find another sport. And yes the major of weapons were on the original ban. And yes the AR15 is a weapon of mass destruction. Ask the families of Sandy Hook CT and see what answer you get. You want to give everybody guns,fine, I do not. As for Iraq and Syria I do not want to see more American lives wasted. And so far they have been wasted by previous Presidents.

Shootings and Security?
 

Does the Villages have adequate security in your opinion? Anyone that rents can use the gate passes to gain entry into the communities?

Actually you don't have to rent. A gate pass is not needed to open Village gates.
Our streets are no more or less safe, the anywhere else.

Yes. We have a VERY low crime rate here.

......and another reason why I choose to conceal carry.

Even more facts
 

You persist in failing to acknowledge that bans are ineffective. If bans worked we wouldn't have a drug problem or several million illegal aliens in our country.

You also obviously don't know that hunters don't use thirty round magazines. Five round magazines are made for a variety of semi-automatic hunting rifles. That's generally the limit in most states, just as shotguns are limited to three rounds when hunting ducks.

The Remington Model 8 semi-automatic rifle was introduced in 1911. One of these, with a detachable 20 round magazine, was used by Texas Ranger Frank Hamer in the ambush of Bonnie and Clyde. It is as deadly as the AR-15 but was never banned because it doesn't look like a military weapon. So you don't hear a hue and cry to ban it. It's all cosmetics.

"Weapons of mass destruction" has a precise meaning. No firearms are included. A weapon of mass destruction is a chemical, biological or radioactive weapon capable of causing widespread death and destruction.

Are you saying that you don't want to see ISIS crushed? That will mean continued attacks on American soil.

The second amendment has little or nothing to do with hunting or target shooting. It protects all other rights period. Think nothing can ever happen then you have your head in the sand and have little knowledge of history.

It seems highly improbably that ISIS or an ISIS inspired killer would target the Villages as this would really backfire on their movement. Mass killing of seniors and their grandkids would probably not be of much use for their propaganda machine.

Something else horrible could happen however. We should always be alert of our surroundings.

There was a little argument on 6/13/2016 at the Belvedere Gate because the guy ahead of me did not have his gate pass and the gate no longer had a red button. The button had been knocked off somehow and you could only use the gate card.

The guy behind me was getting in a yelling match with the guy in front of me.

I got out of the car after putting it in park and used my card to open the gate for the guy with no card available.

And off he went. The guy in the car ahead of me-- driving away. Situation diffused.

This could have escalated though if both guys were armed and willing to use their guns.

John Wesley Harding shot someone --Charles Cougar-- because he snored too loud. John Wesley Hardin | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers

Pretty hard to carry around a Gatling Gun though in the Old West. And now we have their equivalent in rate of fire or even faster among similar murderous hotheads in 2016.

'Out West' at the Autry examines the history of homosexuals and transgender people in the Old West - latimes

Information is beginning to emerge that Omar Mateen may have had problems with his own conflicted sexuality. Apparently he had a gay dating app on his phone and a witness said that he had communicated with him on this site and had seen him at the club, sitting and drinking by himself in the corner. The teachings of Islam against homosexuality, his reported anger issues, and this apparent conflict may have been part of the motive.

Now fifty people have died horribly. And fifty three more are suffering with terrible wounds.

More about Mateen
 

One wonders what goes through the mind of someone like that especially when more information is coming out indicating he was gay and visited Pulse many time in the past. Also interesting the FBI censoring certain statements by Mateen's ex wife. Ex-wife’s bombshell claim: Club shooter was gay | New York Post

File that under the same "gun free zone" or, as the officials call it, "places of nuisance" law. I see the "gun free zones" as an invitation for the crazy people and terrorists.

Do not the police and/or security people in these "gun free zones" have weapons??

I do not anyone armed but the Air Marshall on any airplane I am flying on. A shootout on an airplane at any height is a bad idea and even worse at 35,000 feet.

She was really trying to choose her words carefully last night on CNN. She wouldn't even look at anyone or the camera. Obviously she knew more than what she was revealing. I thought maybe it was due to the investigation.

Maybe he was still in the closet or about to come out - or he was casing the joint. He must have known only the front door was openable as from what I have heard the other doors were locked. He stood at the front door and initially shot the people trying to get out. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.

It does sound like they had a security problem there. We do have to become a lot more careful about soft targets like this one.

How to protect yourself in the event of a terrorist attack - MarketWatch

Terrorism Preparedness | American Red Cross

Preventing Terrorism | Homeland Security

U.S. can't confirm reports Islamic State leader killed

This is changing the subject. But if El Bagdaddy(sp) has indeed been killed then I imagine that the world will be on heightened alert, being this is the Holy month of Ramadan and that Isis has messaged all followers to do Jihad.

He won!
 

Just the mention of his name is his glory! I know his name well, but those killed I can't recall one name! I so wish the news media would never show his face on TV, they love this glory! He never mention his name, instead calling him the shooter, anything but giving him the glory of his name being remembered! This is what they all live for, knowing they get all the attention! Just saying!

Not just Air Marshals
 

Well, no. Bouncers at bars are not often armed. If off duty police are used, they are armed. But one armed officer can easily be overpowered by an ambush, after which the gun free zone becomes a killing field.

You may be surprised to learn that there are thousands of armed individuals on commercial aircraft every day who are not Air Marshals. For twenty years I was one of them. They include all federal law enforcement agents. I sometimes flew in the cockpit.

In addition full-time municipal, county, state, tribal or territorial law enforcement officers may be armed if they meet certain criteria, including being on duty and armed in connection with duties or having an operational need for a firearm just before leaving or immediately upon arriving.

Propose please what new regulations or governmental actions you desire to possibly prevent the next similar massacre. Keep in mind that they will have to be approved by the NRA prior to enactment or we will need a new Supreme Court Justice to readjudicate the meaning of a well regulated militia back to what it meant for the first 200 years of our constitution.

The ammo used by Federal Air Marshal's, and pretty much most Law Enforcement Officers, are designed to mushroom during impact with a body (doing incredible damage) and not pass through the subject.