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jblum315 06-24-2013 06:36 AM

Never liked her anyway

Golfingnut 06-24-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 696855)
Let's be real here. We're all from an era when those words were acceptable. She is is a product of her time and public humiliation because of the past is absurd.

I so agree: Being real and honest is what Paula tried to portray when interviewed. Its like the movie line YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH. It also reminds me of a belief in drug and other addictions: The first step to healing is being open and honest.

mountaineergirl 06-24-2013 06:37 AM

Have you read the deposition? It certainly changed my mind about the situation. Can't support Paula after reading that.

Jaggy 06-24-2013 06:39 AM

Her racist remarks are not recent and its entirely possible for someone to change. What she said in the past is highly offensive, but I'm willing to cut her some slack considering she is from the South and her age. If its past history, let it stay in the past..

BarryRX 06-24-2013 06:53 AM

Her recipes hurt a lot more black people than her use of the n word.

BobnBev 06-24-2013 06:54 AM

She used the "N" word in the privacy of her home, with her husband.....so what...It's nobody's business what goes on behind closed doors.

How come black people can use it when talking to other blacks, and they can call white people racist names, but nobody seems to concerned about that.

It doesn't matter to me, one way or the other, what Paula Dean thinks or says.:mornincoffee:

"Flame suit on"

senior citizen 06-24-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mountaineergirl (Post 696875)
Have you read the deposition? It certainly changed my mind about the situation. Can't support Paula after reading that.

Could you copy and paste or send a hyperlink to the deposition???
Thanks.

Jhooman 06-24-2013 07:10 AM

Redwitch I love your post.

I was raised in the military, attended 26 different schools before graduating from high school. We lived with every type of race. My Mother and Father taught us to be tolerant, we were never allowed to use the N word or we would be punished.

Fast forward, my first husband is Iranian and we have a mixed gorgeous daughter. During the Iranian crisis, parents in my child's preschool shunned us and would not allow their children to play with our child. My ex worked in a high security job and is an American citizen, he was called towel head and many other demeaning names. It was a tough time for our family.

Now my child is grown and married to a half Mexican and Filipino young man, their children are so beautiful. We call them combo children, they attend schools that are a melting pot of races, it's wonderful to see this openness.

My current husband is 100% Russian, 2nd generation. He was persecuted during the 50's, the cold war. Why do people persecute others? I think it's all about fear.

I've had the opportunity to travel the world and experience all types of cultures. I'm so grateful that I was taught to keep an open mind by my parents. When our family gets together the cuisine includes Persian food, Mexican, Filipino, Cuban and Russian food. To be honest we find the Russian food tasteless per the Russian husband. Plus to hear the various languages spoken in our homes is intriguing.

What does this have to do with Ms Dean? Maybe nothing, but it's my experience.

senior citizen 06-24-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhooman (Post 696894)
Redwitch I love your post.

I was raised in the military, attended 26 different schools before graduating from high school. We lived with every type of race. My Mother and Father taught us to be tolerant, we were never allowed to use the N word or we would be punished.

Fast forward, my first husband is Iranian and we have a mixed gorgeous daughter. During the Iranian crisis, parents in my child's preschool shunned us and would not allow their children to play with our child. My ex worked in a high security job and is an American citizen, he was called towel head and many other demeaning names. It was a tough time for our family.

Now my child is grown and married to a half Mexican and Filipino young man, their children are so beautiful. We call them combo children, they attend schools that are a melting pot of races, it's wonderful to see this openness.

My current husband is 100% Russian, 2nd generation. He was persecuted during the 50's, the cold war. Why do people persecute others? I think it's all about fear.

I've had the opportunity to travel the world and experience all types of cultures. I'm so grateful that I was taught to keep an open mind by my parents. When our family gets together the cuisine includes Persian food, Mexican, Filipino, Cuban and Russian food. To be honest we find the Russian food tasteless per the Russian husband. Plus to hear the various languages spoken in our homes is intriguing.

What does this have to do with Ms Dean? Maybe nothing, but it's my experience.

Beautiful post which exhibits the "melting pot" of our wonderful country.
I can only imagine how beautiful your child and grandchildren are with the blending of the backgrounds as you described.

Our best friends were from Budapest Hungary (strawberry blonde, green eyed lady) and India (black hair, dark eyed gent) who produced the most beautiful children........now grown. We enjoyed all of our differences and similarities, our ethnic foods (Hungarian, Indian, Italian, Ukrainian, Polish) amidst the local Vermonters who had been in town for generations from England, Ireland and French Canada.....Quebec. Vive le difference.

Farm raised and city raised alike..........we all got along and respected each other.

Ditto, our kids when a Filipino doctor from the Phillipines and his family moved into the neighborhood......our son actually thought we live in a multi cultural neighborhood. It was mostly old time Vermonters.

People are accepting of all types as long as they feel safe and secure and respected as well.........we've seen it in action.

In doing the genealogy these past twelve years, I learned a lot about the melting pot from Europe, etc. into our cities with the new wave of immigrants back at the turn of the century and prior, in the 1800's....and also the ones who came earlier to settle this big country, also in our tree, from Germany and elsewhere........so I was really surprised when I remembered that our daughter had been told in college that the "melting pot is just a myth".........a myth? I had all kinds of friends while growing up as a child in N.J. I think my own mom was ahead of her time in her tolerance........and that rubbed off on me...........however, the next generation had everyone on a pedestal, even the criminal types....and something, to me anyway, is wrong with that picture.

So this P.C. thing is not really new........it's been around awhile.......at least from the late 1980's/early 1990's.......

We didn't call it P.C. when we were young.......we just accepted our friends on a one to one personal basis. You know who is kind and who is not.
You know who you can trust and who you should not. It doesn't matter what color they are. Maybe I'm strange, but I never felt the need to call anyone names. I find it hurtful.....and would think others would find it hurtful.

But, anyone from immigrant grandparents would remember that they had stories of being called names.........and I don't recall any p.c. cops defending them back in the early days.............

We'd get on a bus in N.J. in the later 1950's after the Hungarian Revolution......and a bunch of factory workers with their lunch pails in their hands would board the bus also.......and people would mutter under their breath....."Green Horns", etc., etc. "Hunkies"......these were BLONDE, BLUE EYED WHITE SKINNED MEN, FATHERS, ETC.

Discrimination and name calling goes across the board..........
The Italians were called wops, dagos, guineas, and worse......
Ditto for the Irish.....shanty Irish, lace curtain irish, drunken Irish.....
I had a wonderful Irish stepfather.......after my Italian dad died.......
Could he ever tell some stories of the Scottish and Irish in his background......
Plus he would tell these stories in his alternating Scottish and Irish brogue.....

There was no politically correct league back in those days.

Out of curiosity, what is the ethnic or racial breakdown in THE VILLAGES?

P.S. When my Hungarian friend came from Budapest Hungary after the Revolution with her Grandmother and Mom, they settled in West Liberty Ohio and were befriended by an entire community of Mennonites. To this day, the surviving aunt and uncle of my departed friend, still recall the kindness of those Mennonite families to displaced people from Hungary, a communist country at the time.......

It is easier to be kind than it is to be hurtful with racial or ethnic name calling.........however, it goes both ways.

senior citizen 06-24-2013 07:57 AM

p.s. Our son has traveled the world many times over......including Europe and all of Asia except Korea. He's been to New Zealand and Australia, China, Cambodia, Viet Nam twice, Japan, etc....Singapore, Thailand,......South America, etc.....etc....

I was thinking of him yesterday when we were watching a repeat of Anthony Bourdain in Viet Nam eating all that noodle soup and driving the mopeds.....exactly as our son had described it when he traveled first with his wife and then the second time with his doctor friend to deliver some collected scholarship money to a girl on a boat raft school.....can't quite picture that. The doc's grandparents were still in Viet Nam so they had dinner with them...........

I've been wondering if any guys who were in the Viet Nam War have been able to put aside bad feelings towards the Vietnamese people or Cambodians? This younger generation does seem to see the entire world as one big brotherhood of men.

But I remember not that long ago at our post office, another generation of men, could not bear to see any of our Japanese automobiles........and would come over and remark on their days during WWII......which I can also understand. It really upset them that any of us would even think of buying a Japanese car.

784caroline 06-24-2013 08:05 AM

Its time for Paula Dean to "move on"......and I could care less about her "words" before and/or after. All Celebs are pretty much scripted anyway including apoligies.

I was never a big fan or I should say follower of deep butter cooking and regardless of what social media wants, it looks like the advertisers are droping her like a lead ballon. Her latest actions (and moreso the attempt at recovery), have been a disaster. Move on and enjoy your millions!

senior citizen 06-24-2013 08:12 AM

Obviously, very few people still cook like Paula Dean's heyday.....even herself.

However, maybe it is me........but when I first saw her humiliating public apology, I kind of related it to back to the Salem Witch Trial days when people would be put in the stocks or else be made to wear a "red letter" or confess their "crime"........it's like where is freedom of speech?

It may not be right or sensitive or kind........but we still supposedly have freedom of thought and speech. NO?

The movies today, the television today compared to those days of our youth, are so foul, that they should be looked into. I think Hollywood is corrupting more values than is Paula Deen. Neither my husband nor I will turn into serial killers by watching the shows we watch............but not every parent is home supervising their kids nowadays.......or making sure the babysitter doesn't turn on the t.v. Just saying.

Worse language and violence is depicted every day into our living rooms.........than she can ever utter, or has uttered.

Happinow 06-24-2013 08:23 AM

Shame on Food Network
 
This has gotten way out of hand. Does anyone care what she said 20+ years ago? I am far more concerned about the lyrics of some of the musicians on the radio talking about killing cops and people, I concerned about the rapper who stomped all over the American flag while making his video. Why is it ok for a black person to call,another black,person the "N" word when someone else does it it is a racial slur? Why is it that Chris Brown can beat up His girlfriend and people still buy his records and he has suffered no backlash? Give Paula Dean a break. I think I would call a person who was robbing me every name I could think of. Her life was in danger and she was afraid. This should never have been taken this far.....in fact, it should never have been mentioned by anyone. Food Network needs to do the right thing and put her show back on. By the way, I don't really care for her or her show but she has gotten a bad rap on this one.

billethkid 06-24-2013 08:27 AM

political correctness (barf) or PC (barf) is a concept allowing one to NOT do or say what is right OR waters down a wrong to the point where it is acceptable for a myriad of ridiculous excuses.

A coward's defense and or position!!

btk

nitehawk 06-24-2013 08:37 AM

The black people call each other "N" word all the time but dont you do it --- believe me i know this for a fact


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