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Old 10-26-2022, 09:00 AM
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Does anyone know who manages this forum and if there is a way to contact them directly? I think it would be good for there to be some accountability for those who moderate what people can say on a public platform.
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Old 10-26-2022, 09:06 AM
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Does anyone know who manages this forum and if there is a way to contact them directly? I think it would be good for there to be some accountability for those who moderate what people can say on a public platform.
I'm sure someone does know who manages this forum.

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Old 10-26-2022, 09:13 AM
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Someone told a friend of a friend that a guy named George bought this forum along with many others. I have no idea what that even means. I must be very naive.
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So I did a little digging. ToTV has a heirarchy, and in the middle of the tre is Joseph Petersen, the Sales and Somethingorother Manager I wrote it down by hand and can't read my own writing.

The headquarters is at 350 Tatonka Ter, which is actually an internal road that runs through the Charter School campus. So that indidates to me that Talk of theVillages is owned by The Villages - either developer, holding corporation, llc, or whatever other of their 48 other cells in their corproration they use for various services.

They have another headquarter address, 7935 Airport Pulling Road North, in Naples. I find that pretty strange, but everyone needs a hobby and looking stuff up is mine.
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I hate to tell you, but this is not a public forum, it is a private business. There is no free speech here. The moderators can censor you anytime they wish and you have no recourse. It is their business and you may wish to be able to contest how they operate their business, but you will have to do it elsewhere.

They have given us rules which they can enforce or not enforce, interpret or adjust as they see fit, on a whim or with careful consideration.

You can play on their playground as long as they let you, and you can take your toys and go home if you are unhappy.

Knowing their names or where they live makes no difference unless you feel the need to personally intimidate or attack the ownership. If you wish to thank them for doing the work and charging you nothing to visit this website, you can do it here any time you wish.

It is more than a bit ironic that someone clamoring for more transparency is not telling us his/her real identity.
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I hate to tell you, but this is not a public forum, it is a private business. There is no free speech here. The moderators can censor you anytime they wish and you have no recourse. It is their business and you may wish to be able to contest how they operate their business, but you will have to do it elsewhere.

They have given us rules which they can enforce or not enforce, interpret or adjust as they see fit, on a whim or with careful consideration.

You can play on their playground as long as they let you, and you can take your toys and go home if you are unhappy.

Knowing their names or where they live makes no difference unless you feel the need to personally intimidate or attack the ownership. If you wish to thank them for doing the work and charging you nothing to visit this website, you can do it here any time you wish.

It is more than a bit ironic that someone clamoring for more transparency is not telling us his/her real identity.
Thanks to the owners of Talk of the Villages. Talk Host and Tony used to visit the TOTV Friday afternoon meetings at Crispers but they and whoever else sold their interests. This is a very good site for information about the Villages. You do have to do some digging though.
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Someone told a friend of a friend that a guy named George bought this forum along with many others. I have no idea what that even means. I must be very naive.
Lol, was his last name Orwell?

After reading "Blueash's" response, I get the suspicion (s)he is involved in the ownership or management org chart.
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Lol, was his last name Orwell?

After reading "Blueash's" response, I get the suspicion (s)he is involved in the ownership or management org chart.
Involved or not involved, she was spot on.
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Does anyone know who manages this forum and if there is a way to contact them directly? I think it would be good for there to be some accountability for those who moderate what people can say on a public platform.
Public forum? Well, the public uses it but the forum itself is privately owned. They can do pretty much what they want, irritating though it is at times.

My personal opinion is that they do a pretty good job overall. I was an online "sheriff" for AOL back in its heyday (few years before Y2K to just after), and you learn pretty quickly that any controversy you involve yourself in becomes unmanageable in a very short time. Best to do your job and keep quiet: don't involve yourself in personal conversation or (even worse) in online discussion about any complaint a subscriber has. Subscribers could air their complaints to the online supervisor who would discuss the issue with the AOL employee involved and then get back to the person making the complaint.

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Public forum? Well, the public uses it but the forum itself is privately owned. They can do pretty much what they want, irritating though it is at times.

My personal opinion is that they do a pretty good job overall. I was an online "sheriff" for AOL back in its heyday (few years before Y2K to just after), and you learn pretty quickly that any controversy you involve yourself in becomes unmanageable in a very short time. Best to do your job and keep quiet: don't involve yourself in personal conversation or (even worse) in online discussion about any complaint a subscriber has. Subscribers could air their complaints to the online supervisor who would discuss the issue with the AOL employee involved and then get back to the person making the complaint.
Same here, moderated Atari boards ad early as the 300 baud dial up days ;-)

They do a fine job but are more hands off than I would be taking topics so far off topic.

But it is their house and people need to respect their rules.
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Private business means their rules. My home, my rules. Your home, your rules. If one does not agree, they don't have to visit. If they get disturbed by the owner's rules, then they can leave any time and no one will complain. It's a case of "in my house, I make the rules."
Clear enough?
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So that indidates to me that Talk of theVillages is owned by The Villages - either developer, holding corporation, llc, or whatever other of their 48 other cells in their corproration they use for various services.
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Lol, was his last name Orwell?

After reading "Blueash's" response, I get the suspicion (s)he is involved in the ownership or management org chart.
BlueAsh escalated this pretty quickly. Wonder if he has a history with the OP
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Public forum? Well, the public uses it but the forum itself is privately owned. They can do pretty much what they want, irritating though it is at times.

My personal opinion is that they do a pretty good job overall. I was an online "sheriff" for AOL back in its heyday (few years before Y2K to just after), and you learn pretty quickly that any controversy you involve yourself in becomes unmanageable in a very short time. Best to do your job and keep quiet: don't involve yourself in personal conversation or (even worse) in online discussion about any complaint a subscriber has. Subscribers could air their complaints to the online supervisor who would discuss the issue with the AOL employee involved and then get back to the person making the complaint.
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