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Bucco 04-25-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTrack (Post 666438)
Are you really serious?


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I am certain you read the entire op ed and not just relied on the out of context presentation on here !!!!

I would agree with you IF the only point being made was about the name....it was NOT the only point and I sure hope folks read a bit better than it seems they do based on this thread.

Agree or disagree but keep it in context and read the entire thing.

Villages PL 04-25-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTrack (Post 666438)
Are you really serious?

Yes, I am serious. Of course, it assumes that the people involved are familiar with important names in history as the column writer obviously is. If she knows history, shouldn't those in charge of letting people into this country know their history too?

Bucco 04-25-2013 06:56 PM

For those who want a bit more than the OPs interpetation of the article, my I quote the first few sentences from the article...

"The Boston bombing crime shows that comprehensive immigration reform should not be only a southern border problem or even just a problem of illegal aliens.

It's also a problem of foreigners who are admitted legally but should never have been admitted, and of others admitted legally on a visa but are not tracked to make sure they depart when their visitor's time expires, as U.S. law requires."


Boston Marathon Bombing Shows Immigration Not Only A Border Problem - Investors.com

This was the point of the oped, and I do not think she did a particulary good job at presenting it, but she does not deserve to be taken apart personally on here because of her age and any other personal slams that have been aimed at her.

Is this thread to be about the personal lacks of the writer or the article ?

OnTrack 04-25-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 666448)
Yes, I am serious. Of course, it assumes that the people involved are familiar with important names in history as the column writer obviously is. If she knows history, shouldn't those in charge of letting people into this country know their history too?

The leap from "knowing history" to "the name should at least send up a red flag to call for a through investigation" ....is a huge one I hope this great country never takes. :(


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Bucco 04-25-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTrack (Post 666459)
The leap from "knowing history" to "the name should at least send up a red flag to call for a through investigation" ....is a huge one I hope this great country never takes. :(


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And your comments on the actual article and not simply this selected (for some reason) phrase ?

graciegirl 04-25-2013 07:02 PM

Bucco. That was a very sane answer.
 
People who show hatred, push you further into your own views and make you angry.

They don't change your mind, they make you more entrenched.

Hatred is obvious from a hundred paces on this forum.

And the usual logical approach by so many of you that I look up to is calming. Thank you Bucco.

Bucco 04-25-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 666470)
Once again, TOTV has been educational. I had no idea Phyllis Schlafly had a column, and that it was published in the Daily Fun. I have no dislike of Phyllis because of her age. However, she is known for her opposition to feminism. For that, I wouldn't read her column, and the fact that the Daily Fun publishes that type of backward thinking, places it on my "do not read" list. They also publish that hate monger Ann Coulter. Ugh!

I often learn more by reading those I "think" I oppose for sure. Without knowing that you limit yourself in a very big way, however may I ask what part of this particular quote from the article you might disagree with....

"The Boston bombing crime shows that comprehensive immigration reform should not be only a southern border problem or even just a problem of illegal aliens.

It's also a problem of foreigners who are admitted legally but should never have been admitted, and of others admitted legally on a visa but are not tracked to make sure they depart when their visitor's time expires, as U.S. law requires."


Boston Marathon Bombing Shows Immigration Not Only A Border Problem - Investors.com

I make it a point to read both left and right of any issue...otherwise my mind is closed.

mickey100 04-25-2013 07:19 PM

In my mind, Ms Schlafly lost her credibility many years ago with her inane views on women's rights. Her comments on the Violence Against Women Act were something along the lines of "it shouldn't be enacted because it promotes divorce and hatred of men". Such wisdom, NOT. I don't waste my time reading the views of people I don't consider intelligent.

Moderator 04-25-2013 07:59 PM

This thread is hopelessly off track of the original topic about a column in today's paper. Personal attacks, name calling, and political statements render it unwieldy to clean up, hence it will be closed.

The admin has opened the door to allow discussion of current events topics as long as they stay away from name calling, partisan references, overt political topics, personal attacks, and extreme rants. Sadly, few of these threads seem to last more than a few hours before they degrade beyond repair.

It's unfortunate that we can't discuss important topics with respect and civility.

Dismounting soapbox....


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