[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Have you heard of Colin Powell's half brother, Semi?

There went another nice keyboard.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by jebartle

FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, NO MATTER what your persuasion . Sure hope this does NOT go political because this is so important, this would apply to life. So many times I hear Villagers say "How can I believe what I read and hear?", and in this time, more than any other, it's time for ALL of us to do our homework and investigate where the truth lies. We are so fortunate to have technology at our finger tips, please put the truth as your priority.

Facts DO matter...thanks for the thread.

[Bay Kid]

It is hard to believe anyone any more. Fact check? How do we know that is true? News, not anymore. Sad

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

There went another nice keyboard.

Hahaha

[justjim]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

Watch all news stations to get all sides before making a decision on how you feel

Excellent advice...

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Facts DO matter...thanks for the thread.

Once again we agree, CNM. You just have to be careful that the things you are reading and hearing that are presented as facts are indeed...well...facts.

[justjim]

“The difference between a wise person and another person is that a wise person has the ability to change his mind”. Justjim

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Once again we agree, CNM. You just have to be careful to make sure what you're reading as facts are indeed...well...facts.

FACTS ARE so easy to determine, as opposed to opinions.

FACTS are easily determined. As another poster mentioned....amazing to see a video of something and the person on the video saying he or she did not say it.

NO, IT IS INFINITELY easy to determine facts, IF we wish to.

Which brings up those that do not care about truth, the enablers if you will. THEY are truly dangerous, to everyone and everything. That belief means above TRUTH is something else driving acceptance of lies......again, as another poster mentioned......we seem to be losing sight of what truth is.

Opinions are one thing....BUT facts are facts.....I want to hear opinions , EXCEPT if you lie, you are a liar....simple as that and that, for me closes it.....why would anyone ever listen to a liar again, they are "using you" by lying....they are, in essence saying they have no respect for you, nor think you are smart enough to know they are lying. I think back to any liars I have known and I feel used by them as they "used" me to enhance themselves whether the lie made them look good or someone else look bad (another liar characteristic is to demean others)

10 Toxic People You Should Avoid Like the Plague | Inc.com

To avoid being suckered by liars, do as so many have mentioned.....read and investigate and when you find a liar shut him or her out...because acceptance makes you an enabler and part of the lie.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Bucco

FACTS ARE so easy to determine, as opposed to opinions.

FACTS are easily determined. As another poster mentioned....amazing to see a video of something and the person on the video saying he or she did not say it.

NO, IT IS INFINITELY easy to determine facts, IF we wish to.

Which brings up those that do not care about truth, the enablers if you will. THEY are truly dangerous, to everyone and everything. That belief means above TRUTH is something else driving acceptance of lies......again, as another poster mentioned......we seem to be losing sight of what truth is.

Opinions are one thing....BUT facts are facts.....I want to hear opinions , EXCEPT if you lie, you are a liar....simple as that and that, for me closes it.....why would anyone ever listen to a liar again, they are "using you" by lying....they are, in essence saying they have no respect for you, nor think you are smart enough to know they are lying. I think back to any liars I have known and I feel used by them as they "used" me to enhance themselves whether the lie made them look good or someone else look bad (another liar characteristic is to demean others)

10 Toxic People You Should Avoid Like the Plague | Inc.com

To avoid being suckered by liars, do as so many have mentioned.....read and investigate and when you find a liar shut him or her out...because acceptance makes you an enabler and part of the lie.

PERFECT!

[graciegirl]

Good morning.

Everybody has lied. Some people are pathological liars and know they are deceiving and enjoy tricking people. Some people lie every once in awhile to keep from hurting others, (yes, you look good in that dress) and some people always tell the truth, although saying nothing is so much better.

Some people are far better than others in telling lies and some are better in telling the truth. Some people speak clearly and everyone knows what they mean and others are not so good at communicating.

It is going to be a beautiful day in The Villages.

Originally Posted by Bucco

FACTS ARE so easy to determine, as opposed to opinions.

“We live in a world where unfortunately the distinction between true and false appears to become increasingly blurred by manipulation of facts, by exploitation of uncritical minds, and by the pollution of the language.”
― Arne Tiselius

[jebartle]

Maybe the ones that "don't get this post", do not investigate facts from several news sources or are believers and not interested in investigating the facts or re-evaluating their leanings (maybe, just maybe, you COULD come to another conclusion!!!!!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Good morning.

Everybody has lied. Some people are pathological liars and know they are deceiving and enjoy tricking people. Some people lie every once in awhile to keep from hurting others, (yes, you look good in that dress) and some people always tell the truth, although saying nothing is so much better.

Some people are far better than others in telling lies and some are better in telling the truth. Some people speak clearly and everyone knows what they mean and others are not so good at communicating.

It is going to be a beautiful day in The Villages.

I think this thread is NOT about us as individuals except using as an example in some cases, was about public acceptance of facts, not personal. Each determines on a personal level who is a lair and not....each of us, as you say has fibbed for sure, but we are talking about media and public...that was clearly stated in the OP and beyond.

LIARS in the public arena are much worse in that they reach millions and millions with lies, whether they be an opinion presenter on TV or an elected official or named department head. THESE LIARS affect all our lives. What you speak of is simply a matter of being selective and wise, but funny how we all say we will not accept liars in our personal life but we seem to accept them, as presented in this thread, where they are named, elected or hired to protect the truth.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by fw102807

“We live in a world where unfortunately the distinction between true and false appears to become increasingly blurred by manipulation of facts, by exploitation of uncritical minds, and by the pollution of the language.”
― Arne Tiselius

He was absolutely correct IN HIS TIME. He was born in 1902 and died in the 70s's. Times have changed since he said that....we now have access to more facts than ever before and YES, they can be manipulated but the responsibility for not accepting lies is OURS.

Frankly, the manipulation of facts increases as we have so much more ability to determine what they are, which leads me to believe it is US who do not care much about facts anymore and that is sad and what bothers me more than anything because you are now open to so much more manipulation by gifted liars who shout down the truth.

Originally Posted by Bucco

He was absolutely correct IN HIS TIME. He was born in 1902 and died in the 70s's. Times have changed since he said that....we now have access to more facts than ever before and YES, they can be manipulated but the responsibility for not accepting lies is OURS.

Frankly, the manipulation of facts increases as we have so much more ability to determine what they are, which leads me to believe it is US who do not care much about facts anymore and that is sad and what bothers me more than anything because you are now open to so much more manipulation by gifted liars who shout down the truth.

Fact manipulation is easier now than it has ever been. Quotes taken out of context, pictures that have been photoshopped, videos that have been edited, studies presented with inaccurate statistics etc