[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Aw Man

Good post. I agree with you.

How do you feel about terms such as "greenies" and Tax payers.

[Aw Man]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

How do you feel about terms such as "greenies" and Tax payers.

Both terms can be used to refer to others in a derogatory manner. If that's the intended use of either term, I'm against using them.

I was born and raised in Ohio. Over my adult years in Illinois, my friends often referred to me as the "Ohioan". I was always proud when they did so.
I was taken aback at my retirement party when all my friends told me the many, many derogatory definitions of the term "Ohioan" that is in common use in Illinois (and probably Michigan).

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by redwitch

To me, being PC is not a group or person acting nor thinking they are morally superior, it is pointing out how hurtful and wrong some words are. That's why the N and K words are no longer socially acceptable. It took folks standing up and saying those words were wrong and would not be be said in their presence or in their homes. It took courage and fortitude. .

That is not universal. Apparently it is perfectly alright to use the N word if you are a hip hop artist or a black comedian.

[2BNTV]

I remember when PC meant personal computer but class never is out of style.

Ann Landers

Class never runs scared.
It is sure-footed and confident.
It can handle anything that comes along.
Class has a sense of humor.
It knows a good laugh is the best lubricant for oiling the machinery of human relations.

Class never makes excuses.
It takes its lumps and learns from past mistakes.
Class knows that good manners are nothing more than a series of small, inconsequential sacrifices.

Class bespeaks an aristocracy that has nothing to do with ancestors or money.
Some wealthy “blue bloods” have no class, while individuals who are struggling to make ends meet are loaded with it.

Class is real.
It can’t be faked.

Class never tried to build itself by tearing others down.
Class is already up and need not strive to look better by making others look worse.

Class can “walk with kings and keep it’s virtue and talk with crowds and keep the common touch.” Everyone is comfortable with the person who has class because that person is comfortable with himself.

If you have class, you’ve got it made.

If you don’t have class, no matter what else you have, it doesn’t make any difference.”


― Ann Landers

[manaboutown]

Political correctness has literally run amuck for some years now. It has cost perfectly innocent people their livelihoods and reputations. For example the word "niggardly" has been around for quite a while. It was used by Chaucer, Milton and Shakespeare and is not even remotely related to "The N word". Indeed it has no racial connotations whatsoever. The Masticator: A Very Awkward, Uncomfortable Word of the Day: Niggardly Yet folks who have used it quite appropriately on occasion have paid a heavy price because highly vocal, ignorant and uniformed people accused of them using "the N word". Washingtonpost.com: D.C. Mayor Acted 'Hastily,' Will Rehire Aide

[ColdNoMore]

I realize this won't change the minds of those who want to justify their use (or acceptance) of the 'N' word...but here it goes anyway.

Why Explaining 'The N-Word' To Non-Black People Is So Damn Exhausting | HuffPost

Every black person who lives in the United States at some point or another comes to accept one thing: the “N-word” is not going away.

Whether you use it or not, whether you are OK with it or deeply offended by it, it’s a word weighted down with so much history and so much pain that is impossible to avoid.

The general consensus among most black people is that “******” is a word best left for us to grapple with. In other words: non-black people — and especially white people — shouldn’t use it. That means colloquially or derogatorily, in context or out. And honestly, we know you’re going to use it anyway, but don’t use it around us.

It would take too long to unpack all the arguments and counterarguments about why white people should avoid the word altogether.

Countless people have explained why there are no special excuses or circumstances for white people saying *****, and have outlined why this is not a double standard.

[redwitch]

I have a real simple rule: black, white, purple, green, polka dotted, I don't care. You will not use a racial slur in my home nor in front of me. You get one warning. The second time, you are kicked to the curb or I am long gone. What you do when I'm not around is up to you. I can't stop you but I will think less of you if I hear about it. The same is true if you try to publicly humiliate someone in a mean or vicious manner. Can't stop you but I certainly don't have to like or respect you.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I realize this won't change the minds of those who want to justify their use (or acceptance) of the 'N' word...but here it goes anyway.

Why Explaining 'The N-Word' To Non-Black People Is So Damn Exhausting | HuffPost

I don't know anyone who uses the "n" word. That is not the point or the crux of any conversations on political correctness. PC is a new language that is a shelter for a new mode of communication that does not allow a spade to be called a spade.

We are not only being forced to accept we aren't kind or nice if we don't use ridiculous language, we are expected to build a whole new series of bathrooms when people who have identified as a certain gender have probably been using that gender's bathroom for a long time unnoticed. The very small numbers of individuals that this directly affects is so small as that most of us have never even noticed that they were using the bathroom that was different than their sex at birth. Most people don't ever want to hurt someone's feelings who are born with an atypical condition. The callous and unkind aren't going to be changed by a third type of bathroom.

[manaboutown]

Certain PC terms are simply inaccurate but are imposed on a population to achieve political agendas. Off hand the term "Native American" as it was invented and has been used by the PC crowd is preposterous. People of any racial background born in America are native Americans. The first people known to settle a designated area are aboriginal. The PC use of the term "Native American" is not only misdescriptive, it disenfranchises people born in America as native Americans.

The use of "red state" for Republican majority voting and "blue state" for Democrat majority voting feels counterintuitive to me. I still have to remind myself which is which because the color red has been prevalently used by socialistic countries such as the former USSR and China for many, many years. Therefore when I hear "red state" what comes to mind is "socialistic (Democrat) state". I still have to use "R is for Republican" as a mnemonic device. Language is powerful. He who controls it controls thinking patterns and viewpoints. Obviously the MSM came up with the red state - blue state designations which no doubt shape public feelings to some degree. Red vs. Blue: A history of how we use political colors - The Washington Post

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I realize this won't change the minds of those who want to justify their use (or acceptance) of the 'N' word...but here it goes anyway.

Why Explaining 'The N-Word' To Non-Black People Is So Damn Exhausting | HuffPost

The "N" word is offensive to me and everyone I know. Terms found offensive by members of other groups are inappropriate and not to be tolerated either. This attitude relates to offensive language and has nothing to do with PC.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

WRONG!

If, however, you believe what you said is correct, give some examples of political correctness speech is the first step in destroying a free society.

I don't have to give any example you just did it for me!

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

I don't have to give any example you just did it for me!

By saying I believe you to be wrong is an example of how political correctness in speech is destroying a free society?

Given the possibility I may be wrong, asking for examples is destroying a free society?

I don't understand your point.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I will try. Anytime free communication is directed or squelched than free speech suffers.

Political Correctness, when we are directed by a group thinking THEY are more sensitive and caring than the rest of us, to use or not use certain words, doesn't change anyone's morality or attitude or the reality of the situation. . It doesn't make anyone MORE respected. It doesn't make an unusual situation or circumstance or person more understood or repected on accepted. It is "Kewl" for the young and aggravating as hell for the old.

Only a kind heart can really be the answer and in the face of that not working, a really good sense of humor, that sees that we are all part of a society that looks stupid occasionally. We cannot laugh at others unless we can laugh at ourselves.

This goes back to the picture of the pitiful man (IN HANDCUFFS) sitting with his pants around his ankles in a public place. It could be you or it could be me. I would expect that if it were me, that someone would find it a tad bit humorous.

That is the reason I stopped drinking.

What I believe you are saying is it is wrong to impose certain words that may or may not have had different connotations in the past.

For example, my old high school football team name was changed from The Crusaders to The Bulldogs. PC and dumb? Maybe? Well, maybe not to the influx of Muslims in the school district. Did it hurt anyone to change it? No. Would a Muslim boy want to be a Crusader? Doubt it.

Go with the flow and remain kind and generous and we have a great life.
Anyhow, PC language is ridiculous at times - but it is not going to cause the downfall of America.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

The "N" word is offensive to me and everyone I know. Terms found offensive by members of other groups are inappropriate and not to be tolerated either. This attitude relates to offensive language and has nothing to do with PC.

So, help me out here. Is comparing one's own bowling skills to Special Olympics non PC or just offensive?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by redwitch

I have a real simple rule: black, white, purple, green, polka dotted, I don't care. You will not use a racial slur in my home nor in front of me. You get one warning. The second time, you are kicked to the curb or I am long gone. What you do when I'm not around is up to you. I can't stop you but I will think less of you if I hear about it. The same is true if you try to publicly humiliate someone in a mean or vicious manner. Can't stop you but I certainly don't have to like or respect you.

I remember getting upset when a woman I really like used the word "chink" when describing some neighbor. I did not say anything but it certainly cooled my feelings for her a great deal. I have had friends who are Japanese-American, Korean, Chinese, Chinese-American, etc. I try not to socialize with people who seem like bigots. Sometimes you have no choice though.