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Old 05-18-2020, 07:05 PM
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You’re fortunate if you have enough money and storage room to feed the whole neighborhood in a disaster.
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Have you also planned how to deal with the have-nots who want your things because their families are starving since the horrible disaster hit but they do have loaded guns.
There are many facets to prepping.
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You’re fortunate if you have enough money and storage room to feed the whole neighborhood in a disaster.
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You’re fortunate if you have enough money and storage room to feed the whole neighborhood in a disaster.
What make you think that the "prepper" has the obligation to feed the whole neighborhood? Have you ever read the parable about the ant and the grasshopper? I guess not.
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Old 05-18-2020, 07:19 PM
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When did being prepared become a bad thing?

I'm not paranoid. I've learned from experience. And it has paid off.

We live in Washington State. When the Fukushima nuclear reactors melted down they thought the radiation cloud might reach the west coast. I bought N-95 masks. Thankfully didn't need them.

Fast forward to Covid-19. My wife is a nurse. Her hospital ran low on N-95's early on and was only giving them to personnel who worked with Covid patients their entire shifts. My wife only entered Covid rooms when she had to perform a specific task so only received an uprated surgical mask. I was able to send her to work with an N-95 everyday until the hospital was able to replenish their stock.

We live in an earthquake prone part of the country. We have lots of bridges that go over water. Without bridges to cross that water, trucks can't deliver groceries. So I have enough shelf stable food to last awhile. If any number of those bridges collapse while my wife is at work there will be no way for her to drive home. Luckily we live about a mile from Puget Sound and can actually launch a boat locally and pick her up at the marina a block from the hospital.

Ever think about what would happen if we had another truckers strike? You think the shelves emptied fast for Covid? You ain't seen nothing.
You can call this paranoia all you want but it's simple forethought with a little investment in planning.

A failure to plan is a plan to fail..
Obviously it's a Row Boat you wouldn't want to take a chance of running out of gas.

Not a Sail Boat no wind a no, no so safe bet Rowing. Off ya go to safety.

For me ?

Right now I have a 2 + week supply of Beer Mic Ultra 16 oz. cans, Wine not cheap, and yes the food .

Lean Cuisine, plus 3 bottles pasta sauce ( Bertolli's ) enough pasta hey bring it on !

Oh yes 4 Cans of soup just in case.
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What make you think that the "prepper" has the obligation to feed the whole neighborhood? Have you ever read the parable about the ant and the grasshopper? I guess not.
I have read the Bible which indicates we need to look out for each other. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. We all have to do what our conscience will allow us to do.
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Boy Scouts were always prepared!
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Some of the definitions displayed here blur the lines between a prepper and a survivalist.

These personalities are on a continuum. Both will gather supplies and obtain training to persevere through a society anomaly or complete breakdown. The prepper is more community focused and will extend their supplies and training to aid their community where the survivalist is more inclined to isolate from the community.

I am a prepper. In the past, with storms and power outages, I have offered assistance and supplies to my neighbors. This recent Covid -19 pandemic, I have seen examples of a neighbor that was resentful, even hostile towards preppers because that neighbor feels the prepper’s supplies should be allocated elsewhere.

For this reason, many preppers and survivalists keep a low profile and do not overtly display their supplies and preparations. Your neighbor could be a prepper and you may not know it.
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Being a prepper would be ideal if we had a horrible disaster every 2 years. Unless you’re saving C-rations, the shelf life of most items is short and then it could all be destroyed, stolen or contaminated by the horrible disaster
Food, especially canned food, if properly stored in a controlled environment can be edible decades after purchase. Most commercially dehydrated food has an advertised shelf life of 10 to 30 years, assuming it has been properly stored.
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Old 05-19-2020, 06:30 AM
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Boy Scouts were always prepared!
Especially when it came to the annual Boy Scout/Girl Scout Dance always very popular ( Escorted ) of course.
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Some of the definitions displayed here blur the lines between a prepper and a survivalist.

These personalities are on a continuum. Both will gather supplies and obtain training to persevere through a society anomaly or complete breakdown. The prepper is more community focused and will extend their supplies and training to aid their community where the survivalist is more inclined to isolate from the community.

I am a prepper. In the past, with storms and power outages, I have offered assistance and supplies to my neighbors. This recent Covid -19 pandemic, I have seen examples of a neighbor that was resentful, even hostile towards preppers because that neighbor feels the prepper’s supplies should be allocated elsewhere.

For this reason, many preppers and survivalists keep a low profile and do not overtly display their supplies and preparations. Your neighbor could be a prepper and you may not know it.
I miss making my own bread can I borrow a packet of yeast.
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As someone who went through Hurricane Katrina in N.O. and lost a home and lifetime of memories at the age of 58 I consider myself a prepper. I agree with “A prepper is a person who takes measures in advance to ensure the economic, physical and emotional well-being of their family during times of struggle.”
So yes, since 2005 we have kept a 3 to 6 month supply of food and basic necessities. We rotate our stock so it is not out of date and we buy when items are on sale. As a retired L.E.O. I also know in times of disaster or civil unrest help may never arrive, and if they do it may be too late. Remember the B.S.O.A. motto "Be prepared." This is predominately a theme in the conservative ranks, progressives wait for help to arrive and someone to feed them.
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As someone who went through Hurricane Katrina in N.O. and lost a home and lifetime of memories at the age of 58 I consider myself a prepper. I agree with “A prepper is a person who takes measures in advance to ensure the economic, physical and emotional well-being of their family during times of struggle.”
So yes, since 2005 we have kept a 3 to 6 month supply of food and basic necessities. We rotate our stock so it is not out of date and we buy when items are on sale. As a retired L.E.O. I also know in times of disaster or civil unrest help may never arrive, and if they do it may be too late. Remember the B.S.O.A. motto "Be prepared." This is predominately a theme in the conservative ranks, progressives wait for help to arrive and someone to feed them.
That makes the point perfectly. All the hoarding can be lost in a heartbeat in a disaster. We’re far better off as a country if we all look out for each other. Did all of the people hoarding TP lately feel better knowing that many people were struggling trying to find some when, in reality, there was enough available for everyone?
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That makes the point perfectly. All the hoarding can be lost in a heartbeat in a disaster. We’re far better off as a country if we all look out for each other. Did all of the people hoarding TP lately feel better knowing that many people were struggling trying to find some when, in reality, there was enough available for everyone?
If anything preppers lessened the impact of the TP struggle. We bought our TP when supplies were plentiful, well before the need. We didn't have to partake in the recent TP wars. The hoarders are the ones who weren't prepared and displayed the me, me, me mentality by taking more supplies than they needed causing the shortage.
We display personal responsibility in being prepared and all you can do is knock it. Weird..
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As someone who went through Hurricane Katrina in N.O. and lost a home and lifetime of memories at the age of 58 I consider myself a prepper. I agree with “A prepper is a person who takes measures in advance to ensure the economic, physical and emotional well-being of their family during times of struggle.”
So yes, since 2005 we have kept a 3 to 6 month supply of food and basic necessities. We rotate our stock so it is not out of date and we buy when items are on sale. As a retired L.E.O. I also know in times of disaster or civil unrest help may never arrive, and if they do it may be too late. Remember the B.S.O.A. motto "Be prepared." This is predominately a theme in the conservative ranks, progressives wait for help to arrive and someone to feed them.
This is the crux of the reason I began this thread. True "preppers" are non-threatening, supportive, self-reliant members of society. Yet, there are MANY posters who can't devote the 1-2 minutes required to determine the nature of preppers. It's much easier to fill-in the blanks (in their knowledge) with ridiculous comments that would make preppers the focus of animus by the many squirrels who never put nuts away for the winter.

Boy Scouts, the armed forces, and many government civilian agencies, practice and preach preparedness. Yet, locally there are many "haters" who are more than happy to target others simply because they believe and act somewhat differently than them, albeit in a non-threatening manner. Haters are gonna hate...
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