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Microcodeboy 08-31-2013 04:21 PM
Who are the opposition?
 
Who is on the other side of this equation? We know who the current leader is but what about the "new" leadership. Too many examples of wrong guesses lately. And shouldn't blab about it, just do it or leave all options open:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:. Tell us after.

DianeM 08-31-2013 05:04 PM
Anyone remember Vietnam? We were acting as "big brother" there too. SIGH too many young men died there and in Afghanistan recently and more, sadly, will die in Syria if we go there now. Who would defend us? Not a single country I'm sure.

donb9006 08-31-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 736943)
Anyone remember Vietnam? We were acting as "big brother" there too. SIGH too many young men died there and in Afghanistan recently and more, sadly, will die in Syria if we go there now. Who would defend us? Not a single country I'm sure.
We got into Vietnam fraudulently, look up gulf of Tonkin. We got into Iraq fraudulently, where were the WMDs Powell? And we're going to get into this fraudulently!

They need this to have an excuse to raise the deficit.

DianeM 09-01-2013 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by donb9006 (Post 737032)
We got into Vietnam fraudulently, look up gulf of Tonkin. We got into Iraq fraudulently, where were the WMDs Powell? And we're going to get into this fraudulently!

They need this to have an excuse to raise the deficit.
My point exactly

Bay Kid 09-01-2013 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 736892)
We have no business getting involved in Syria. Let them fight amongst themselves. I quite frankly don't care. Why do we always have to play the role of "big brother". The world hates us anyway so why not just defend our borders and say the heck with Syria.
So true!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-01-2013 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 736800)
Hopefully against it.

Z
Do you think that he will not act if congress votes against it?

Fasten your seat belts.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-01-2013 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 736854)
Or you could say that President Obama is obeying the US Constitution which gives congress the right to declare war and control of the purse strings.
Actually, there's a little thing called the War Powers Act of 1973 that gives POTUS the power to act unilaterally.

Bucco 09-01-2013 09:47 AM
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Or you could say that President Obama is obeying the US Constitution which gives congress the right to declare war and control of the purse strings.
You could...HOWEVER he, himself said publicly he does not need it, and even said a couple days ago he wouldn't ask for it.

This is sheer politics, and actually good politics..problem is that politics should not even be considered, but e pretty much now know it is.

jebartle 09-01-2013 09:54 AM
Please pass the corn b4 moderator sees this one
 
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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 736885)
Yes! Where is Kahuna saying "Never vote for an incumbent." They need to be sent home to get a freakin' JOB with decent health insurance and 40 hours of work/earnings like the rest of us bust our humps to get!!!!

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

njbchbum 09-01-2013 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 736846)
that's one way to avoid commitment.
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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 736847)
Commitment for what? Don't you think we have enough problems in the USofA without p*sing off the rest of the world?

I am not sure why everyone thinks that we have to be the big brother of those countries that don't are about themselves.

Z
what are you insinuating that i meant? a commitment to act? foolish to assume, isn't it?

commitment can be to act or not to act.

zcaveman 09-01-2013 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 737164)
Do you think that he will not act if congress votes against it?

Fasten your seat belts.
No I don't. I think he is looking for a way out from his "crossed the red line" comment.

Z


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