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Taltarzac725 04-23-2016 11:56 AM

The Current from Minnesota Public Radio

This site from the Twin Cities has a lot of information about Prince.

I do not own any of his CDs and do not know his songs all that well never really being a Prince fan but it seems like many people will miss his music.

kittygilchrist 04-23-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1216414)
I lived about two miles from prince's home. Passed it at least once a week. Prince excited a generation of people. i do not believe people roil against a celebrity but the life style that accompanies it. Its not the celebrity they hate its the drugs culture, etc that has become a blight on this nation

Right, Rubicon.
And those who hold up moral standards are "haters."
I never thought twice about Prince.

Editing this to add: the moral standard regards our value on the life of a great musician as deserving purple lights in cities and the white house, While fallen military or police do not matter much.
It has naught to do with the musician himself.

gerryann 04-23-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1216507)
The drug that may have killed Prince is called percoset (sp?). It is a combination of OxyContin and Tylenol. These drugs are probably used by hundreds, if not thousands, of villagers every day.

This is very true. I'll bet many of you would find this particular drug in your, your friends, your children's medicine cabinet. Very commonly prescribed for pain.
Such hate by people that don't know anything about this human being.

gerryann 04-23-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1216531)
Right, Rubicon.
And those who hold up moral standards are "haters."
I never thought twice about Prince.

In what regards do you mean "you never thought twice" ? He's a human being who died accidentally taking a prescribed drug for pain. I don't know you, but I know I'd feel bad if you died in a similar situation. At this point, no one knows exactly what happened, other than he was sick from the flu and had ongoing pain from a surgery. Nobody is calling you a "hater".....but uncaring, yes.

graciegirl 04-23-2016 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1216537)
This is very true. I'll bet many of you would find this particular drug in your, your friends, your children's medicine cabinet. Very commonly prescribed for pain.
Such hate by people that don't know anything about this human being.



I think that if people react against a drug death, it isn't meant to hate the person but those people are reacting emotionally against the plague of drugs everywhere. Percoset is not harmful or addictive if taken carefully and for a short time.


I have been told by two doctors here in TV when "heavy" prescription drugs were prescribed here by dentists, to throw them away and try to make it through on Advil.


I have two friends who have acted angry when the discussion of a drug overdose by Prince was discussed online. Prince inspired great admiration and loyalty and was highly praised for his creativity and musical skill and his innovative clothing and choreography. The truth is that no one really knows an entertainer except the people who are with them every day. It is a highly stressful life, I would imagine.

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manaboutown 04-23-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1216539)
In what regards do you mean "you never thought twice" ? He's a human being who died accidentally taking a prescribed drug for pain. I don't know you, but I know I'd feel bad if you died in a similar situation. At this point, no one knows exactly what happened, other than he was sick from the flu and had ongoing pain from a surgery. Nobody is calling you a "hater".....but uncaring, yes.


Although Percocet or whatever painkillers were in Prince's system were prescribed it is unlikely they were prescribed in the quantities he had been taking. After all, he had previously overdosed. It boils down to prescribed drug use versus drug abuse.

The unfortunate truth is musicians and other celebrities lead lifestyles where pretty much anything they want is at least available to them and indeed frequently pushed upon them. Few appear have the self discipline to not overdo.

BTW I just lost a fraternity brother to a drug overdose and like Prince he was a very, very smart guy; he was a college professor and had earned two entirely separate PhDs, one in foreign languages and one in psychology. A year ago he had overdosed enough to put himself into a coma for a week.

ColdNoMore 04-23-2016 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1216652)
Although Percocet or whatever painkillers were in Prince's system were prescribed it is unlikely they were prescribed in the quantities he had been taking. After all, he had previously overdosed. It boils down to prescribed drug use versus drug abuse.

The unfortunate truth is musicians and other celebrities lead lifestyles where pretty much anything they want is at least available to them and indeed frequently pushed upon them. Few appear have the self discipline to not overdo.

BTW I just lost a fraternity brother to a drug overdose and like Prince he was a very, very smart guy; he was a college professor and had earned two entirely separate PhDs, one in foreign languages and one in psychology. A year ago he had overdosed enough to put himself into a coma for a week.

Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.

manaboutown 04-23-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1216654)
Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.

I do not believe the color or ethnicity of the substance abuser has anything to do with the denigration of a particular user due to death from substance abuse. I know of no modern civilized society anywhere in the world condoning drug abuse. It boils down to color blind disapproval of certain behaviors. My fraternity brother was white and had struggled with alcohol as well as licit and illicit drugs for years.

graciegirl 04-23-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1216654)
Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.



I am completely surprised by this post. A person's ethnicity would never enter my mind in such a discussion.

Barefoot 04-23-2016 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1216502)
The rumors are that it was from an overdose of a pain killer called percocet like his previous overdose six days before.

I'm not a Prince fan.
But I think it's a shame that when a celebrity passes, the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.

Taltarzac725 04-23-2016 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1216669)
I'm not a Prince fan.
But I think it's a shame that when a celebrity passes, the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.

Actually this was more Facebook stuff not the media per se.

We will have to wait and see what the results actually say caused Prince's untimely death.

NoMoSno 04-23-2016 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1216669)
the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.

That's what the media is best at.:doh:

ColdNoMore 04-23-2016 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1216667)
I am completely surprised by this post. A person's ethnicity would never enter my mind in such a discussion.

Since I don't know you, I certainly didn't intend to imply that you would be one of them.

I was referencing mostly posts I've seen on Facebook and the internet, whereby a number of people have expressed joy at "another thug from the hood" dying from drugs.

janmcn 04-23-2016 07:10 PM

For all the Prince fans, SNL is doing a tribute show tonight featuring recent performances. Set your DVR's.

ColdNoMore 04-23-2016 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1216673)
For all the Prince fans, SNL is doing a tribute show tonight featuring recent performances. Set your DVR's.

Thanks for the heads up! :ho:



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