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Old 10-23-2021, 11:39 AM
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Default Proposed Electric Vehicle Tax

There was a bill working its way thru the legislature in Florida to impose a yearly tax on EVs. The proposal was for a tax of $135/yr for the EVs. It never made it out of committee in 2021 but is likely to be reintroduced.

The thinking is that those with a gas car are paying a gasoline tax with every fill-up which funds road infrastructure. Those with EVs and to some extent hybrids are getting to use that infrastructure for free. Consider if there were a toll bridge but EVs didn't have to pay a toll.

Shouldn't EV owners pay their way? I did a quick calculation based on averages of 11,000 miles/yr for each driver in Florida and an average $0.55 per gallon Federal/state/local gas tax. Using a guesstimate of the typical gasoline fueled car/truck of 22 mpg each vehicle is paying

11000 miles/22 miles/gal = 500 gallons * 0.55 dollars/gal = $275 per year in taxes paid by a gasoline fueled car. If anything the proposal was far too low. This calculation is for pure EV's. How to handle hybrids which use some electric and some gas also needs to be evaluated. No gas, no squeegee

With our crumbling roads, bridges, and infrastructure we will either need to move away from the idea of a user fee and make paying those costs just part of our overall tax policy or figure out a way to make non-gasoline users share the expense.
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Old 10-23-2021, 12:22 PM
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Why are there so many toll roads in Florida. Next Florida will tax golf carts both gas or electric
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Old 10-23-2021, 12:24 PM
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The lack of gasoline tax funding for road infrastructure will become a serious problem as more and more people switch to EV’s. Don’t be surprised if sometime in the future there will be a mileage monitor on EV’s so that they can be taxed based on miles driven.
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Politicians are good at finding new things to tax but EV's should be paying their share for road improvements and new construction
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The lack of gasoline tax funding for road infrastructure will become a serious problem as more and more people switch to EV’s. Don’t be surprised if sometime in the future there will be a mileage monitor on EV’s so that they can be taxed based on miles driven.
Already being talked about:
Pete Buttigieg suggests taxing drivers by the mile to pay for infrastructure bill
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Old 10-24-2021, 07:07 AM
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A little off subject, but I noticed the Chey Bolt is banned from the airport parking garage.

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No. Chevy Bolt.

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A little off subject, but I noticed the Chey Volt is banned from the airport parking garage.
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Why are there so many toll roads in Florida. Next Florida will tax golf carts both gas or electric

Few Toll roads never get paid off due to number of career personnel required to collect the tolls and pay for benefits. Good example I44 running through Oklahoma. Started charging tolls 1953. Once found out it’s never ending gold mine.
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I think taxing EV cars is a good idea but doubt it will happen as they are pushing very hard for people to drive EV’s. I would hate to go on vacation driving an EV and most will not fit a family of 4 plus luggage. Where do these people think electricity comes from? Lighting rods?
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I think taxing EV cars is a good idea but doubt it will happen as they are pushing very hard for people to drive EV’s. I would hate to go on vacation driving an EV and most will not fit a family of 4 plus luggage. Where do these people think electricity comes from? Lighting rods?
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Currently, 19 states have a specific tax on EVs. Florida is not one of them, yet.

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I think taxing EV cars is a good idea but doubt it will happen as they are pushing very hard for people to drive EV’s. I would hate to go on vacation driving an EV and most will not fit a family of 4 plus luggage. Where do these people think electricity comes from? Lighting rods?
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Let's not forget fair share tax on lithium battery collection and storage
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Let's not forget fair share tax on lithium battery collection and storage
At lease for regular batteries, the collection and recycling of the battery is the responsibility of the seller of batteries. Thats why you don't see batteries as trash along the road side, unlike tires. A good example of the seller carrying the burden of disposal. So, I expect that the makers of the EV cars will be responsible for collection and recycling or disposal of these batteries. And this is built into the cost of the EV.
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Why are there so many toll roads in Florida. Next Florida will tax golf carts both gas or electric
yeah, but the tolls are very low in cost compared to some areas. i think the most i paid for a fl toll since i've been here was $1.50. just some weeks ago, i had to pay $22 just to cross a bridge in jersey, $18 for a bridge in nyc.
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In NY they raised the gas tax to discourage people from driving and creating pollution. Driving miles did drop. Dropped enough where the state stopped receiving as much from the gas tax as they had been. Of course, they raised the gas tax more.
Same story with cigarettes. Sin tax.
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