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Beechie 11-01-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 961534)
The OP's reference to "Puerto Ricans bringing their bringing their "bilingual skills" to Florida" sounds racist to me.

But maybe I read that wrong. Maybe they are thrilled and hope for more and better bilingual skills over time.

"Puerto Ricans bringing their "bilingual skills" to Florida" does not sound racist in the least.

Folks, we need to be extremely careful when throwing accusations that one's comments sound racist and then throw in a "Maybe I read that wrong" to negate the inference. Libel is Libel. As it turns out it was not the OP's words in the quote.

In the court of public opinion once an accusation or inference is made, the targeted is typically guilty until proven innocent. How unfair is that?

It is however a very effective tool in quelling a debate.

graciegirl 11-01-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 961274)
I read in The Daily Sun that Puerto Rico has around 100 people PER DAY have been leaving Puerto Rico and Florida is the top destination. The article says the Puerto Ricans are bringing their "bilingual skills" to Florida. These people are leaving Puerto Rico because of high unemployment and crime there. Most of these have immigrated to the Orlando area as well as the South Florida area. Is this going to be a Social Security and/or a voting issue?


I don't understand this post at all. What are you getting at? I met my first person born in Puerto Rico just the other day. He is a friend of one of the very loved posters on here. Nice man, nice family. Is there something that I don't know? How could you call any of this racist? He is just an ordinary person, I guess he is white? If he had been pink with yellow polka dots he would have been a nice person. Is their some hatred I am not aware of against people born in Puerto Rico?

Wandatime 11-01-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 961274)
I read in The Daily Sun that Puerto Rico has around 100 people PER DAY have been leaving Puerto Rico and Florida is the top destination. The article says the Puerto Ricans are bringing their "bilingual skills" to Florida. These people are leaving Puerto Rico because of high unemployment and crime there. Most of these have immigrated to the Orlando area as well as the South Florida area. Is this going to be a Social Security and/or a voting issue?

No.

Sandtrap328 11-01-2014 09:24 AM

The voting issue the article referred to was that the majority of the Puerto Ricans are influencing the voting complexion in South Florida and the large Orlando area from "red" to "blue".

The Social Security issue was the Puerto Ricans are adding to the Social Security tax pot with the jobs and businesses they are creating.

It is a very positive thing that is happening.

Chi-Town 11-01-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 961712)
I don't understand this post at all. What are you getting at? I met my first person born in Puerto Rico just the other day. He is a friend of one of the very loved posters on here. Nice man, nice family. Is there something that I don't know? How could you call any of this racist? He is just an ordinary person, I guess he is white? If he had been pink with yellow polka dots he would have been a nice person. Is their some hatred I am not aware of against people born in Puerto Rico?

Did you see West Side Story? [emoji6]

BarryRX 11-01-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 961336)
If the "good folks" migrate here, get a job, work and all the other normal things, the more the merrier. Welcome aboard.

I think the concern is bringing toxic elements with them don't you think? Not saying that is the case but simply the topic people wonder about.

Another question is ... since PR is presumably a semi-socialist paradise anyway, why would anyone ever want to leave?

I was tempted to reply about the toxic elements coming from Texas, but that would be as wrong as your reply. I do not worry about toxic elements from Puerto Rico or Texas or Michigan or Ohio.....well you get my point. Nor do I wonder why anyone would leave a state that has a different tax system or offers more or less services to their citizens.
By the way, one thousand people move to Florida each day, so 90% of the people that move here daily are not from Puerto Rico.

rubicon 11-01-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 961740)
Did you see West Side Story? [emoji6]

Hi Chi-Town: Perhaps you didn't read my first post (#9) It read:
"when your a jet your a jet all the way from your first born breathe to your last dying day"

I wrote that because I saw the thread going the, are you a racist route. i thought perhaps we were going in a different direction such as what affect will this have on future voting in Florida, or something like that. gonoho knew better and rhetorically ask what did you expect?

WHAT is very revealing is the state of mind which not only permeates this forum but the nation and I blame it on a two word restrictive notion POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS MORE A MORE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE barf THAN OBSCENE LANGUAGE:cus:

Chi-Town 11-01-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 961784)
Hi Chi-Town: Perhaps you didn't read my first post (#9) It read:
"when your a jet your a jet all the way from your first born breathe to your last dying day"

I wrote that because I saw the thread going the, are you a racist route. i thought perhaps we were going in a different direction such as what affect will this have on future voting in Florida, or something like that. gonoho knew better and rhetorically ask what did you expect?

WHAT is very revealing is the state of mind which not only permeates this forum but the nation and I blame it on a two word restrictive notion POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS MORE A MORE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE barf THAN OBSCENE LANGUAGE:cus:

You are so right about missing your lyric reference. I can hear it my head now. Being followed by I Feel Pretty. Oh no.

BTW, I understand what you're saying about everyone having to be PC. I saw this coming years ago and it just gets more demanding.

quirky3 11-01-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 961739)
The voting issue the article referred to was that the majority of the Puerto Ricans are influencing the voting complexion in South Florida and the large Orlando area from "red" to "blue".

The Social Security issue was the Puerto Ricans are adding to the Social Security tax pot with the jobs and businesses they are creating.

It is a very positive thing that is happening.

Cool!!:coolsmiley:

Rags123 11-01-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 961784)
Hi Chi-Town: Perhaps you didn't read my first post (#9) It read:
"when your a jet your a jet all the way from your first born breathe to your last dying day"

I wrote that because I saw the thread going the, are you a racist route. i thought perhaps we were going in a different direction such as what affect will this have on future voting in Florida, or something like that. gonoho knew better and rhetorically ask what did you expect?

WHAT is very revealing is the state of mind which not only permeates this forum but the nation and I blame it on a two word restrictive notion POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS MORE A MORE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE barf THAN OBSCENE LANGUAGE:cus:


I suspect that some of these threads are begun hoping the topic will route the way you mentioned !

graciegirl 11-01-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 961740)
Did you see West Side Story? [emoji6]


Yes.

Maria. I just met a girl named Maria. And suddenly that name will never be the same...:sing:

Is there something bad I don't know?:shrug:

This couple was very nice, only he was born in Puerto Rico, They have been married for a long time and they have twin grandchildren whose names are Gabriel and Elena and they are very proud of them. He has lived here for a long time and went to college here. He has a Spanish name and worked all of his life in IT. I thought he was a very nice person, particularly too because he is a very close friend of a dear friend of ours.

He is a U.S. Citizen, pays his taxes, votes, is a responsible and very charming person. What am I missing? I was thirty before I met a person of Asian descent and forty before I met a Native American, and in my thirties before I met a Mexican person. I'm from Ohio. I knew a lot of German people. When I was a very little girl there was some prejudice against German people.

Villages PL 11-01-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 961461)
The reason I didn't say "race" is because that's not what I was referring to ... but apparently you are? Besides, PR is not a "race" anyway as far as I know.

I also think it's pretty obvious that any culture, race, group etc has "good folks" in it as well as "bad apples"... look no further than The Villages and the police reports in villagesnews online to see that.

In addition to some "bad apples" how about cultural differences overall.
I have no idea whether or not there are any cultural differences, I'm just asking.

My cousin left south Florida and moved to central Florida partly because of Cubans. And also because of a rising crime rate. That's not to say that Cubans were responsible for the rising crime rate. He cited cultural differences.

Villages PL 11-01-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 961525)
They aren't going to find much less crime and unemployment in Miami.

That's true. Many of my relatives moved out of the Miami area because of the rising crime rate.

TexaninVA 11-01-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 961773)
I was tempted to reply about the toxic elements coming from Texas, but that would be as wrong as your reply. I do not worry about toxic elements from Puerto Rico or Texas or Michigan or Ohio.....well you get my point. Nor do I wonder why anyone would leave a state that has a different tax system or offers more or less services to their citizens.
By the way, one thousand people move to Florida each day, so 90% of the people that move here daily are not from Puerto Rico.

Well, actually you did succumb to your temptation didn't you? But, in the meantime, while you expressed "no problem" if anyone moves here no matter criminal record, no ability to support themselves, drug issues (how wonderfully open minded of you) you have not yet explained why my post about "toxic elements" was wrong per se. Someone else already implied that was 'racist' and I replied to that.

I think what I said was common sense but most won't say it because of ... well replies like yours to be blunt.

BarryRX 11-01-2014 08:05 PM

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