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ndf888 06-07-2021 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1954913)
With the current seven day average of Covid coded deaths in the US, and based on the CDC numbers, the chances of dying with Covid are about equal to your chances of dying from a stroke. You have a greater chance of dying in an accident than dying with Covid. And you are 4X more likely to die from cancer and 4.5X more likely to die from heart disease.
Your likelihood of catching the virus and developing a symptomatic infection depends greatly on your age, exposure, health status, COVID incidence rate and variants in your community, and some other risks factors. It’s an evolving situation.

Singerlady 06-07-2021 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1954913)
With the current seven day average of Covid coded deaths in the US, and based on the CDC numbers, the chances of dying with Covid are about equal to your chances of dying from a stroke. You have a greater chance of dying in an accident than dying with Covid. And you are 4X more likely to die from cancer and 4.5X more likely to die from heart disease.
…but we still do not know the long-term effects from getting Covid. That is the scary part. And, if you can avoid getting Covid, wouldn’t you want to?

Swoop 06-07-2021 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1955718)
Actually that post was correct regarding long term effects of mRNA vaccines. Here is a quote from University of Pennsylvania medicine:

“The current evidence base on messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines is made up entirely of small early-stage trials, nearly all of which examined only short-term outcomes. They lack sufficient power for testing the statistical significance of most results, and for assessing the risk of serious but uncommon adverse events.”

You can read it in it’s entirety:
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/...ew%20final.pdf

Swoop 06-07-2021 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1955729)
…but we still do not know the long-term effects from getting Covid. That is the scary part. And, if you can avoid getting Covid, wouldn’t you want to?
…but we also don’t know the long-term effects from mRNA vaccines. That is the scary part. And if you can avoid getting the vaccine (because you’re not in the at risk group) wouldn’t you want to?

Works both ways, doesn’t it…

Astron 06-07-2021 07:35 AM
These are not experimental vaccines
 
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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1955188)
It's not a vaccine. It's "experimental " gene therapy that has killed hundreds and sickened thousands. All for what? A virus that 99% of people survive. Now who's crazy?
There is no “gene” in the vaccine, it is mRNA in the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. There are other vaccines that that use viral vectors.
These vaccines are NOT experimental. Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines Explained | FDA
If you want to avoid protecting yourself, and others, please take the time to read technical and scientific sources of information, not inaccurate opinions before making that decision.

Joe C. 06-07-2021 07:41 AM
Does anyone really care any more? Really? Looks like everyone is taking turns flogging a dead horse.

Joe C. 06-07-2021 07:42 AM
Does anyone really care anymore? Really? Looks like everyone is taking turns flogging a dead horse.

Leadbone1 06-07-2021 08:59 AM
You are naïve!

Leadbone1 06-07-2021 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1955292)
I am extremely skeptical about this undocumented hearsay.

I personally know of six people who were very sick with Covid and know of four people who died. One who said things just like you are saying. He rode his bike around the neighborhood. He died within six days of getting sick.

I ask you and your daughter in law, what would be the reason for saying someone died of Covid when they did not. Do not say money. These people had relatives. Do you think I would let someone say my mother died of Covid when she had a malignant brain tumor? It just doesn't make sense. It is another conspiracy theory. People died of Covid. Hospitals didn't get more money if they died of Covid. That is pure foolishness and it makes me really mad.
The hospitals do get more money if Covid is listed as the cause of death. People that choose to remain paranoid or naïve are part of the problem!

JMintzer 06-07-2021 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1955292)
I am extremely skeptical about this undocumented hearsay.

I personally know of six people who were very sick with Covid and know of four people who died. One who said things just like you are saying. He rode his bike around the neighborhood. He died within six days of getting sick.

I ask you and your daughter in law, what would be the reason for saying someone died of Covid when they did not. Do not say money. These people had relatives. Do you think I would let someone say my mother died of Covid when she had a malignant brain tumor? It just doesn't make sense. It is another conspiracy theory. People died of Covid. Hospitals didn't get more money if they died of Covid. That is pure foolishness and it makes me really mad.
Oh, dear, we certainly don't want to make you mad!

But, once again, you're mistaken...

Hospitals most certainly do get paid more with a Dx of Covid than they do with a Dx of Pneumonia...

I'm not blaming the docs for that. It's the administrators and the billing departments...

And you'll tell people your mother died of whatever they told you she died of...

PugMom 06-07-2021 09:51 AM
just an FYI: JASPER BECKER: No wonder so many experts say Covid DID leak from Wuhan research centre | Daily Mail Online

Ben Franklin 06-07-2021 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1955603)
Well.....turns out Fauci has lied to the public and Congress...looking like he is a huge goner....will be fired and most likely stand trial. So with all the out right lies I no longer can trust what is coming out of the NIH along with CDC and FDA.....look really hard at this...I hope and pray those that took the vaccine will Not see further harm in the future...really sad that Fauci turned out to be a criminal.
Why is Fauci taking so much heat? My guess is as long as they can keep someone else on the Covid hot seat, it distracts from who is ultimately responsible for 612,000 needless American deaths and 34 million infections.

JMintzer 06-07-2021 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1955814)
Why is Fauci taking so much heat? My guess is as long as they can keep someone else on the Covid hot seat, it distracts from who is ultimately responsible for 612,000 needless American deaths and 34 million infections.
Yes, the Lab in Wuhan, China...

Swoop 06-07-2021 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1955814)
Why is Fauci taking so much heat? My guess is as long as they can keep someone else on the Covid hot seat, it distracts from who is ultimately responsible for 612,000 needless American deaths and 34 million infections.
Rather than guess, let’s look at actual facts as to why the US Covid deaths are as high as they are:

One, the US decided to code anyone who died, that tested positive for Covid, or was suspected to have died with Covid, as a Covid death.

Two, according to the CDC, obese people are 3X more likely to be hospitalized with Covid, and the US has the highest percentage of obese people of any major country.

Three, the US had a higher percentage of nursing home patients die with Covid than any other country in the world. While other countries did their best to protect their most vulnerable people, some states in the US insisted that those with Covid be placed in nursing homes.

Plenty of blame to go around…

Becca9800 06-07-2021 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1955804)

I'm not blaming the docs for that. It's the administrators and the billing departments...
Wut??? Only physicians can make a medical diagnosis. Hospitals, and certainly billing staff, aren't listing a dx unless the doc says it's so in the medical record.


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