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Normal 12-31-2023 06:51 AM

National Anthem Disrespected
 
I love our national anthem. My heart and mind goes to those moments Francis Scott Key wrote of and I actually picture them in my mind as they are sang. I don’t have any problem with it being played, but the disrespect that comes from those that do bothers me. It’s the moment where one removes their hat, another salutes, another places their hand over their heart simultaneously with those who try to talk over it and pick their noses.

Which is better, total reverence or the mixture that includes disrespect too?

Maybe that is America now and I just have to accept it. Orrrrrr maybe another God fearing time will come like in times past where all the people will have no choice but to come back to planet Earth and the respect for God and country.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-31-2023 10:31 AM

I love that we have a National Anthem. I'm not fond of THAT National Anthem. I stand with respect when it's performed because like it or not, it's our National Anthem and therefore deserving of respect. It's a long-winded poem, most people don't know anything beyond the first verse, and it's rarely played beyond the first verse. It also reminds us of how absolutely normal slavery was, and that needs to be updated. "No refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave..." Yes it's about a moment in time. But it was a bloody gruesome moment in time.

I'd much rather celebrate America, the Beautiful. But I think the whole "God shed his grace on thee and crowned thy good with brotherhood" is too much for anyone who has a problem with people actually feeling brotherhood toward each other without consideration of color, origin, preference, pronouns, accent.

Bogie Shooter 12-31-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2286814)
I love that we have a National Anthem. I'm not fond of THAT National Anthem. I stand with respect when it's performed because like it or not, it's our National Anthem and therefore deserving of respect. It's a long-winded poem, most people don't know anything beyond the first verse, and it's rarely played beyond the first verse. It also reminds us of how absolutely normal slavery was, and that needs to be updated. "No refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave..." Yes it's about a moment in time. But it was a bloody gruesome moment in time.

I'd much rather celebrate America, the Beautiful. But I think the whole "God shed his grace on thee and crowned thy good with brotherhood" is too much for anyone who has a problem with people actually feeling brotherhood toward each other without consideration of color, origin, preference, pronouns, accent.

Well said.

Taltarzac725 01-01-2024 12:59 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lCmBvYMRs

One of the best!

golfing eagles 01-01-2024 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2286767)
I love our national anthem. My heart and mind goes to those moments Francis Scott Key wrote of and I actually picture them in my mind as they are sang. I don’t have any problem with it being played, but the disrespect that comes from those that do bothers me. It’s the moment where one removes their hat, another salutes, another places their hand over their heart simultaneously with those who try to talk over it and pick their noses.

Which is better, total reverence or the mixture that includes disrespect too?

Maybe that is America now and I just have to accept it. Orrrrrr maybe another God fearing time will come like in times past where all the people will have no choice but to come back to planet Earth and the respect for God and country.

How about total reverence coupled with summary execution for all those who disrespect our anthem, our flag or our country?

golfing eagles 01-01-2024 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2286814)
I love that we have a National Anthem. I'm not fond of THAT National Anthem. I stand with respect when it's performed because like it or not, it's our National Anthem and therefore deserving of respect. It's a long-winded poem, most people don't know anything beyond the first verse, and it's rarely played beyond the first verse. It also reminds us of how absolutely normal slavery was, and that needs to be updated. "No refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave..." Yes it's about a moment in time. But it was a bloody gruesome moment in time.

I'd much rather celebrate America, the Beautiful. But I think the whole "God shed his grace on thee and crowned thy good with brotherhood" is too much for anyone who has a problem with people actually feeling brotherhood toward each other without consideration of color, origin, preference, pronouns, accent.

And that's what a national anthem does. INCLUDING history that might be distasteful. I think it is a big mistake to try to erase history---tear down statues, rename sports teams and selectively teach our children.

Remember, ‘Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’---Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás

Susan1717 01-01-2024 06:53 AM

They still sing the anthem at every live game I’ve been to. It’s such a shame some groups are taking away the pride in our county. Its shameful.

Tonydivo 01-01-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2286703)
Am I only one notice national anthems not shown at sporting events? At least ones I watch?

They rather put commercials on

coconutmama 01-01-2024 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2286814)
I love that we have a National Anthem. I'm not fond of THAT National Anthem. I stand with respect when it's performed because like it or not, it's our National Anthem and therefore deserving of respect. It's a long-winded poem, most people don't know anything beyond the first verse, and it's rarely played beyond the first verse. It also reminds us of how absolutely normal slavery was, and that needs to be updated. "No refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave..." Yes it's about a moment in time. But it was a bloody gruesome moment in time.

I'd much rather celebrate America, the Beautiful. But I think the whole "God shed his grace on thee and crowned thy good with brotherhood" is too much for anyone who has a problem with people actually feeling brotherhood toward each other without consideration of color, origin, preference, pronouns, accent.

Another vote for “America The Beautiful” as our anthem, but we always stand & take off our hats for the anthem & also when the Flag passes by at parades.

It is bothersome that so few people do the same, even here in The Villages at the parades. It is not just young people either

Bness 01-01-2024 07:49 AM

Check out NASCAR
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2286713)
Rarely see them before NFL games of late.

Not only does the national anthem get sung, it's on TV at the beginning of every race. And bonus... they also say a blessing. Probably still the most patriotic sport. Even with the new car.

Cliff Fr 01-01-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2286703)
Am I only one notice national anthems not shown at sporting events? At least ones I watch?

We've just started watching "Kim's Convienance store" on Netflix. It's based in Canada and features a Korean family who own a store there. The father is an Archie Bunker type of character. I was just thinking that it would never be allowed these days here on ABC, NBC or CBS. it is very funny.

Marmaduke 01-01-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2286722)
Depends. I've attended many rodeos. They all play the national anthem before the festivities start. At the ones I've seen at the excel Center in St. Paul, MN (Home of the Minnesota Wild), they play the National Anthem, present the colors with much pageantry, AND have an invocation beforehand.

Love it.

Love Rodeo's, Love America. America's Heartland. America's Exceptionalism!
Giddyup!

PersonOfInterest 01-01-2024 08:46 AM

I fail to see the significance of the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance especially at a sporting event. What purpose do you see for either of these? Why do you feel either one are needed?

airstreamingypsy 01-01-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2287028)
I fail to see the significance of the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance especially at a sporting event. What purpose do you see for either of these? Why do you feel either one are needed?

Thank you, I was trying to think of what to say, and you said it so perfectly....... I got rattled when I read 'American exceptionalism" and couldn't go carefully from there.

mmazo 01-01-2024 09:03 AM

They use that time for commercials. Unless it's a big sporting event the networks could vare less about who is singing ut.


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