Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2379279)

We could split hairs about the who has the best among relatively similar standards, but it is irrelevant. The problem is China and India.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379284)

What if? Let's give it a try and see! Or, we could sit om our thumbs and do nothing.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2379162)

Anything renewable or green made from mining and fossil fuels. Agree we could cut that level but the world has to be on same page. We in United States have the highest standards in world , until rest of world meets our standard there nothing we can do except going down same old road.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2379240)

You were obviously not around during the 40s and 50s!

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2379273)

How many PPM of C02 in the atmosphere will cause all the breathing problems being cited? Provide a bonafide source for this info and not someone's opinion.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2379279)

We could split hairs about the who has the best among relatively similar standards, but it is irrelevant. The problem is China and India.

Originally Posted by Bassdeer (Post 2379178)

Keep buying your EV's, Have to keep the child slave labor digging for cobalt going in the Congo.

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2379227)

I think you completely missed the point. It's not sulphur, mercury, and all those other nasties that could severely impact our health - it's also what you can't see. Think of Carbon Monoxide in your home - invisible and yet kills. We may think everything is "clean", but as CO2 levels rise you will find it harder to breathe and as Elon points out we will all start to suffer. Sort of like a frog in a pot of water slowly being brought to the boil.

My intent is to point out that besides climate change, elimination of biodiversity, and all the other problems a reliance on fossil fuels creates - CO2 is a very simple one to understand. It's easy to measure, and the charts make it very plain as to what is going on.

Maybe it's a case of the Millenials and Gen Z's will have to deal with this because we will all be dead when it starts to rear it's ugly head. But whatever the case, we (the not so "wise" old ones) are not leaving the world in a great place for our grand children.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2379291)

Much of the world has been giving it more than a try for a long time, and "they" say it's still getting worse, despite all the improvements.
Maybe you could get Mother Nature to make a better effort.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379316)

Why do some folks always want others to do the research and provide all the data? You want a statement fact checked, then you fact check it and you provide you findings. More often than not, "please provide" is just wasting your time and will deny any evidence and/or source as valid. It's mental "rope a dope", getting others to waste their time and energy. Hey, maybe you can cheat off Elon's notes?

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379304)

I was. You think the air is cleaner now? Thank the "tree huggers" of that era for they brought polution to our attention, forcing regulations to make big poluters clean up their act.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379316)

Why do some folks always want others to do the research and provide all the data? You want a statement fact checked, then you fact check it and you provide you findings. More often than not, "please provide" is just wasting your time and will deny any evidence and/or source as valid. It's mental "rope a dope", getting others to waste their time and energy. Hey, maybe you can cheat off Elon's notes?

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379324)

OMG! 😒 Since when did you start caring, other than to use it as a guilt trip argument for big oil?

Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2379175)

So if your neighbor had trash all over his property, would you do the same? It's up to each of us to do what we can to clean up this planet.

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2379455)

When someone makes a claim, it is their responsibility to provide evidence to back it up. Otherwise, it is just oral diarrhea.