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Golfingnut 03-08-2014 04:08 AM

OH, you this this is a new fad?

You should then be shocked by this.

13 Historical People Who Smoked Weed | Marijuana Use Through History (Page 6)

gomoho 03-08-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 841570)
This very thread has the legalization of MEDICAL MARIJUANA ahead in the polls 2 to 1. Twice as many of your fellow villagers are in favor. It is not a case of right/wrong or uncaring/compassion. There is and will always be a faction around that feels they are better equipped to dictate laws to the majority; however, as long as we are a democratic society, we all must respect our way and honor the final decision. Overall, America and all her laws is the best thing going. Let's enjoy her together.

Lou

Are you aware you contradict yourself in the other thread saying it's the old people that don't want to legalize it? Maybe it's time to put down that joint.

TexaninVA 03-08-2014 09:19 AM

Here's the way I see it ... if we legalize recreational marijuana, we can safely predict that the use of dope in the population will expand. In addition, more young kids will become users than otherwise would have for several reasons including easier access etc

Thus, as Villagers, if one votes for legalizing recreational pot, one is also saying "sure, it's ok with me if my grandkids smoke pot ... no problem"

That's why I voted against it.

Taltarzac725 03-08-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 840723)
I have never smoked a joint and never would, however I would support legalization.
Instead of making smugglers, street hustlers, and Central and South American cartels rich, why not have it grown and controlled by Americans as it is in Colorado?
Instead of paying for the incarceration of tens of thousands of users and sellers, and spending millions on eradication and police work why not save that tax money and add the tax money on maijuana?
I think most people who want to smoke it already do, it seems to be easily accessable.
Seems to me the quality would likely improve and the controls over it would insure better and safer product.

I agree with this assessment. I wrote a lengthy paper while at the University of Minnesota Law School on the laws of the Prohibition in Minnesota and it seemed like the lawyers and criminals were the ones getting rich off of banning liquor and the law did not seemed to be doing a whole lot of good on controlling liquor and its consumption. It seemed to make drinking more attractive especially to rebellious teens and twenty somethings.

Golfingnut 03-08-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 841695)
Are you aware you contradict yourself in the other thread saying it's the old people that don't want to legalize it? Maybe it's time to put down that joint.

Not at all it's true that the older ones don't want it around. I also said, that folks in the Villages are different than the typical older American, for several reasons. Maybe it's time for yo to put the bourbon bottle under the sick.

JB in TV 03-08-2014 09:45 AM

I don't understand the comments that say if marijuana is legalized it will increase the underage use. EX: you grandkids.... Do your underage grandkids drink alcohol? If legalized, it will only be legal for adults to buy and use it. Just like alcohol. I suspect that many youth try marijuana specifically due to the fact that it is illegal.


With that said, I am not willing to try to change anybody's mind on the subject. We each have our reasons for our beliefs and what anybody else thinks about them is irrelevant, unless one of your beliefs is trying to change mine.

EDIT: Anyone who has gotten drunk knows how their reflexes and judgemt are impared. Those who have not smoked marijuana can't possible understand the difference.

Golfingnut 03-08-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JB in TV (Post 841734)
I don't understand the comments that say if marijuana is legalized it will increase the underage use. EX: you grandkids.... Do your underage grandkids drink alcohol? If legalized, it will only be legal for adults to buy and use it. Just like alcohol. I suspect that many youth try marijuana specifically due to the fact that it is illegal.


With that said, I am not willing to try to change anybody's mind on the subject. We each have our reasons for our beliefs and what anybody else thinks about them is irrelevant, unless one of your beliefs is trying to change mine.

EDIT: Anyone who has gotten drunk knows how their reflexes and judgemt are impared. Those who have not smoked marijuana can't possible understand the difference.

The sad truth is that they simply do not know.. It's all speculation at the expense of millions of Americans that could benefit from its legalization. I understand we will lose jobs due to the lack of need for street dealers, but little consequence in my mind.

BS Beef 03-08-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 841725)
Not at all it's true that the older ones don't want it around. I also said, that folks in the Villages are different than the typical older American, for several reasons. Maybe it's time for yo to put the bourbon bottle under the sick.

Sorry but you lose the battle over who's holding the bottle of bourbon and who's holding a bong. :1rotfl:

Just thought it was funny, not picking sides :ho:

graciegirl 03-08-2014 10:43 AM

I was supported financially through childhood by drugs. If you want to look at it that way. My family was in the beer brewing industry.


My father and grandfather were brewmasters, and both of them used a lot of alcohol.


I have to say that I am surprised at the polls on this forum that obviously support the legalization of marijuana for both medical and recreational use.


You never grow too old to be surprised. I am still mulling it over.


Our daughter said that the biggest surprise to her were the kids who had not been allowed to try alcohol in their home were tryin' it big time in college.


I am a HUGE fan of moderation. But some can't be moderate. It is just not part of their personality or genetic make up.


I guess this will be an "I told you so" on the part of somebody if it becomes legal.

Golfingnut 03-08-2014 10:49 AM

I would not smoke a joint if it was handed to me by surgeon general and the highest ranked district attorney gave me the nod that it was legal now.

I also will not tell a person suffering that would benefit from its use NO because we think it might not be a good idea.

We have to many freedoms taken away from us by government already

BS Beef 03-08-2014 11:07 AM

[quote=Golfingnut;841115]Thank you for being sensible.[/quote

Why is it that every one that agrees with you is "sensible" and every one you disagree with is confused and misguided? I have found that to be the case in every single thread I have ever seen you write.

Golfingnut 03-08-2014 11:15 AM

[quote=BS Beef;841795]
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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 841115)
Thank you for being sensible.[/quote

Why is it that every one that agrees with you is "sensible" and every one you disagree with is confused and misguided? I have found that to be the case in every single thread I have ever seen you write.

Thank you very much, my thought is because they are and the others are not.

gomoho 03-08-2014 11:16 AM

[quote=BS Beef;841795]
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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 841115)
Thank you for being sensible.[/quote

Why is it that every one that agrees with you is "sensible" and every one you disagree with is confused and misguided? I have found that to be the case in every single thread I have ever seen you write.

Unintended consequence of smoking "the wicked weed'???

gomoho 03-08-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 841725)
Not at all it's true that the older ones don't want it around. I also said, that folks in the Villages are different than the typical older American, for several reasons. Maybe it's time for yo to put the bourbon bottle under the sick.

Here is your exact quote from the other post "It is the law in many states now an will soon be the law of the entire country. The fact that old people are the main objection to this coming attraction proves to me that it is right to legalize it. "

Don't see any reference to the folks in The Villages being different. And I drink wine not bourbon.

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Golfingnut 03-08-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 841803)
Here is your exact quote from the other post "It is the law in many states now an will soon be the law of the entire country. The fact that old people are the main objection to this coming attraction proves to me that it is right to legalize it. "

Don't see any reference to the folks in The Villages being different. And I drink wine not bourbon.

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