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Yung Dum 07-16-2020 11:15 PM

Yes. We all aren't fortunate enough to have beaten this disease.

Yung Dum 07-16-2020 11:23 PM

Wearing a mask does not make you a wimp, a liberal, or a frightened paranoid germaphobe. It does, however, show that you care about the health of your fellow human beings. If everyone wore a mask at all times in public, we could open up everything and go back to business as usual, though to a slightly lesser extent (such as wearing masks). But if millions of people refuse to wear them whatever reason, whether it’s political, personal comfort, or vanity this thing will never get better. If you feel a mask has a detrimental effect on your own health, don’t go out. If it’s uncomfortable, wear a face shield. But don’t put others at risk for your own sake. A mask is not to prevent you from catching the virus, but to prevent you from spreading it. Even if you tested negative yesterday, you could be positive today. A test does not make you immune. Instead of working together as a nation, we have chosen to make this a largely political issue, making it worse for all of us. Our elected officials (both parties) have all done their best to stoke the flames of division on this. Do you really believe the entire world cares so much about our elections that they are willing to go along with this so-called hoax? Come on people. Wake up to reality. We’re all Americans who love our country. Why can’t we work together on at least this one issue? At least can’t we give a try? That would make America great again.

kannon 07-17-2020 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1803841)
I hate masks.
Given the chance I will not wear one.
But how hard is it to slip one on when entering an area when in close proximity to others, and tale it off when not.
Will it stop me catching the virus. No.
Will it reduce the % chances of me passing it on, or catching it? Yes.
It's a no brainer in my book!!

I think this is by far the best way to summarize where we are at and where we need to be as a nation. WW II we were mobilized as a country. Time for us now to do the same. We can do it. We just have to work together.

tsmall22204 07-17-2020 05:06 AM

It is so amazing that the very people that could barely pass science in school know so much about science now. WEAR THE DAMN MASK and just shut up.

nick demis 07-17-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1803846)
Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

If you believe that if everyone wares a mask, it will curb the virus in 8 weeks, I have a bridge to sell you in New York City

Rosebud1949 07-17-2020 05:13 AM

NO MASK NO SERVICE..........a short time wearing it in a grocery store etc could save a life YOURS... so Wear a Mask, and save a life, before someone wearing a medical mask HAS TO SAVE YOURS. Strange, you would not turn away help from a person wearing one, if you were in desperate need of medical care !!!! SHAME ON YOU

It seems that those who refuse to wear one have never had a loved one catch this virus...... sure many would wish that on them.

RBW225 07-17-2020 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

Interesting question. I'm sure there are multiple strange reasons, but if they knew that if all wore masks over a period of time, they could go to the bars, dine inside and small businesses would survive it might help.

Joanne19335 07-17-2020 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1804018)
Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

Well said, OBB! Lots of selfish folks everywhere you turn.

DrBrutyle109 07-17-2020 05:18 AM

Yeah right
 
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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1803846)
Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

Prove it!

Annie66 07-17-2020 05:26 AM

I know this video will not change many minds, but it reinforces the value of masks.

Sask Masks - Experiment results from a Mask vs. No Mask...

tsmall22204 07-17-2020 05:31 AM

Anyone that does not wear a mask became it is uncomfortable, try a ventilator for several weeks and let me know if that is more comfortable.

JOG 07-17-2020 05:32 AM

Can't wear a masked so my Dr recommended a face shield.

JoelJohnson 07-17-2020 05:50 AM

"No shirt No service", at restaurants. Seat belts in cars. These are things that saves lives. Masks stop the spread of moisture from your mouth (try blowing out a candle with a mask on).

Right now one person spreads Covid-19 to 2.5 people, we need to get that down to below 1 to stop the spread.

Remember, Covid-19 does not care about politics, who you are, how much money you have. It will kill anybody that can't fight it off, sick or healthy. It may not kill you, but it might kill me if you spread it to me or my family.

If you want things to go back to "normal" help stop this thing.

fdpaq0580 07-17-2020 05:53 AM

Great idea, but...
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1804377)
There should be a T-Shirt that says, "I BEAT Covid-19. I can NOT infect you"

Great idea, but it wouldn't work. They would be purchased on line by the same kind of folks that are not handicapped but use fake handicapped placards, or the folks that take their pets into places they shouldn't be and claim their pet is a service animal. You know, the dishonest people.
Still, it is a great idea to sell a lot of t-shirts. "$19.99. But if you order now we'll send you a second one free. Just
pay the extra shipping ($40.00)."

Stay well. Stay safe. Wear a mask. Peace!

swooner 07-17-2020 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1803841)
I hate masks.
Given the chance I will not wear one.
But how hard is it to slip one on when entering an area when in close proximity to others, and tale it off when not.
Will it stop me catching the virus. No.
Will it reduce the % chances of me passing it on, or catching it? Yes.
It's a no brainer in my book!!

No more grocery shopping for you!

DecaturFargo 07-17-2020 05:58 AM

Please. That's not what anyone is talking about. And, besides the well-known epidemiologists are uncertain about re-exposure and contracting. Just wear a mask. It's that simple.

Kasolnic 07-17-2020 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy (Post 1804019)
Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

Exactly!

mdsimon1 07-17-2020 06:10 AM

I hope that those who refuse to wear masks because they are uncomfortable, also refuse to be put on a ventilator because I've heard that's really uncomfortable. That will free up a ventilator for someone who got sick because someone else didn't wear a mask. It sounds fair to me.

lwest542 07-17-2020 06:15 AM

I wonder how much of it is vanity? Its a thought........next time ask yourself if the person not wearing the mask thinks they need to display their face...

Marcyd 07-17-2020 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

Niferlou06 07-17-2020 06:27 AM

We live in a very selfish society; sadly. Wear a mask; for the greater good. Let’s stop this. We do not know sufficient information about this virus therefore for everyone to be safe wear a mask or stay home.

jacksonbrown 07-17-2020 06:36 AM

Although I wear a face mask (when required), many medical "experts" contend that by wearing masks you may be delaying others from developing memory antibodies for long-lasting protection against viral infection.

Antibodies, not vaccinations, will allow our society to more quickly return to normal.

La lamy 07-17-2020 06:38 AM

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I feel like I'm suffocating when I wear a legit blue mask, so I made some from cotton fabric. Hopefully people get a giggle out of them.https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...1&d=1594985899

Nell57 07-17-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy (Post 1804019)
Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

I have seen this report on the news several times on several different networks.
Scientists retested Covid survivors at three month and six month intervals. Many survivors had no antibodies in their system after 3 months, and are vulnerable again. That is the data for THIS virus at this point in time.
COvid is. Novel virus that has morphed and changed several . times.
All we can do is go on today’s knowledge, realizing that facts may change tomorrow.
😷

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-17-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1803846)
Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I think that the problem with this post is that it's "the latest discussion". It seems that the latest information changes daily or at least weekly.

And just because it's a discussion on the news doesn't mean that it's accurate.

I believe that because of this along with the inaccurate reporting of data that some people believe that the virus is not as big of a problem as some are making it out to be.

Personally, I wear a mask whenever I enter a public building. I think that the virus is serious and I understand that the experts are dealing with something that they've never dealt with before so there is a steep learning curve. But for many people, the changing information and falsification of numbers is enough to make them believe that it's all a big hoax.

kendi 07-17-2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

I agree with a previous response, lots of different reasons. I know some who consider the hype to be political and they consider mask wearers to be mindlessly following the crowd. Others simply don’t believe it’s real or a serious situation. Some say it’s media hype. Others don’t believe mask help. And I’m sure there are many other reasons. Thanks for asking rather than criticizing like many do. Sometimes it seems the nastiness this virus has brought out in many is worse than the virus itself.

Luc582 07-17-2020 07:03 AM

MASK: To wear or not to wear?
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

I wear a mask purely as a courtesy to those that serve us and are mandated to wear a mask when working. Does the mask protects me? Not really. If someone sneezes or coughs near me, the micro spray generated would most likely reach my eyes, which are great recipients for any forms of microbes or virus traveling through the air. So a mask would not protect me. The debate of the masks has been used as a political tool by our politicians and media. Until the elections, we are doomed with such debate of mask pros and cons.

So if someone doesn’t wear a mask when entering a public building or any establishments, they are not courteous to those that serves them.

Bill1701 07-17-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

It's a silent protest against the people who bring their dogs in to stores.

cathiehines 07-17-2020 07:18 AM

Also, you're told not to touch your face. I see people constantly picking up items on shelves that have been touched by others and then adjusting the mask as their glasses are fogging up or they are having difficulty breathing. Unless you have an N95 mask, these other disposable and designer cloth masks are pretty much useless. Plus, there are differing medical opinions about the masks. Fauci is a joke, changing his advice everytime the wind blows. Such a glory hound.

kendi 07-17-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Niferlou06 (Post 1804569)
We live in a very selfish society; sadly. Wear a mask; for the greater good. Let’s stop this. We do not know sufficient information about this virus therefore for everyone to be safe wear a mask or stay home.

The people I talk to that don’t wear masks are not selfish in character nor is their decision not to wear one selfish. It’s really not appropriate to make a general statement like that about non mask wearers.

kendi 07-17-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lwest542 (Post 1804555)
I wonder how much of it is vanity? Its a thought........next time ask yourself if the person not wearing the mask thinks they need to display their face...

I seriously doubt it’s about vanity. I’ve never heard anyone worried about how they look in a mask or comment on how others look. A mask doesn’t change your face, just hides it more.

jafrmohio 07-17-2020 07:44 AM

You’re so right and I believe the major reason we are under water with Covid. From the beginning we have had mixed messages. People choose to believe what suited them.

DeanFL 07-17-2020 07:48 AM

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Bonnevie 07-17-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcyd (Post 1804560)
From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

what would be helpful when someone cites research is to provide a the link that supports what they are saying. here is a link from the American Lung Assoc. that rebuts what you say. From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association

Singerlady 07-17-2020 07:58 AM

You misunderstand about asymptomatic not spreading the virus. All it takes is droplets. If the droplets are ‘infected’ but you’re not showing symptoms (Asymptomatic ), you’ll share the disease. But you don’t KNOW you have the virus. I prefer to take every cautionary suggestion to not infect YOU. Please do the same for me. Thx.

merrymini 07-17-2020 08:00 AM

Masks
 
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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1803846)
Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I do not believe that the masks are only to protect others from yourself. When people have chemo and are immune compromised, they wear masks To protect themselves from others and their germs. Do not believe, uncritically, the stuff you read. The supposed experts do not know or they would not be changing their mind every ten minutes.

Taltarzac725 07-17-2020 08:03 AM

My librarianship training makes me love this. People should dig for the best information on subjects and the American Lung Association is a great source for reliable information unlike some very well paid talking head on Fox News who are in it for the $$$$ as adjusted by their ratings.

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1804659)
what would be helpful when someone cites research is to provide a the link that supports what they are saying. here is a link from the American Lung Assoc. that rebuts what you say. From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association

From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association

NorskiCroat 07-17-2020 08:06 AM

Asymptomatic spread is real
 
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Originally Posted by Tblue (Post 1804466)
It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such.

While the World Health Organization did say that asymptomatic spread of COVID is rare, they walked back that statement the next day. As of July 10, CDC says 40% of COVID cases are spread by asymptomatic people. That means, quite simply, that people who are not coughing, congested, or have a fever are spreading COVID every hour of every day. Please wear a mask.

overcha 07-17-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

Holy Cow, some people are just Stubborn !

Eg_cruz 07-17-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

Because some people started a conspiracy theory that this was a ploy and it became politics not a health issue


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