A friend of mine also posted this on Facebook. I found it to be a very good short narrative of those of us that carry a concealed weapon. Thank you for sharing it here. I find it also interesting being a veteran and trained in using a weapon, that many would like to now disarm me. This country trained many of us to use a weapon on the battle field, why would people want to disarm us now? We may have some snow on the roof but we are still ready to defend this country and its people.

OK, so using that rational:
- simply allow them to build their Caliphate in the middle east and beyond,
- don't focus on intelligence-gathering systems here and allowing them to weaken,
- continue to put limits on the handcuffed Syrian bombing missions,
- continue to not listen to your military advisors,
- continue to belittle our domestic police,
- use 1/3 of your speech - and 90% of your US Attorney General's speech last Thursday to warning US citizens not to hold prejudice against all Muslims,
- do not lead ALL the peaceful nations, including Muslim countries to rebel against this worldwide scurge. Continue to state the 65 country coalition is focused on this effort, clouding the actual truth.


Oh, and after all this - pass the baton to the new president in '17 when this war has worsened even more.

Oh, I don't disagree that the foreign policy is abysmal. The fact is ISIS exists because the administration failed to negotiate a status of forces agreement when he left Iraq. I believe that many of the things you mentioned are already being done. Its frustrating. But if we go back into the area plan to be there for a long, long, long, time and we will spend Billions and many lives will be lost. And we should only go if we are committed to two things, Destroy ISIS Totally and plan to battle the 7th Century Ideology that exists there. To win a war you need two things, the commitment of the American people and the will of the local people in the country to help you destroy the enemy. If you want to see when this all started see if you can rent a movie called "Charlie Wilson's War" it will give you the perspective on what and why we are were we are today.

Nothing new or any value added to the serious problem even after the CA incident.

Displayed below is a portrait of the enemy confronting us and forever elusive and deinied for some unkown reason by this administration and all it's advisors:

ISIS plot for world domination revealed in chilling detail with plans for education and industry - Mirror Online

Maybe just a one time propaganda production, however validated and made more realistic by the CA attack.

What I find interesting is that he went out of his way to emphasize that we have no solid evidence that this was a terrorist attack or that these people had any connection with a foreign terrorist organization.

This morning, The FBI announced that they are treating this as a terrorist attack and that they have evidence that these people are part of a larger organization.

You mean to tell me that the president of The United States didn't have some information that this was the case?

A lot of what he said made sense to me, by why go out of your way to make a statement that you know with 99% certainty is going to be proven wrong.

More gun laws are not going to change anything. We need to start enforcing the gun laws that we have with maximum sentences. Even with that, more laws aren't going to stop crimes. Laws don't prevent crime. they only serve to punish people who break them. How many laws were broken by the two shooters? They're going to be in big trouble now. We already have laws against murdering people, but people still get murdered. Does anyone think that we need more anti murder laws?

As someone pointed out, a huge percentage of gun deaths in this country are suicides. Does anyone think that those unfortunate souls wouldn't find another way to end their lives?

What was not mentioned is the huge percentage of homicides that are gang banger on gang banger. If you solve the gang problem and you'd eliminate a large number of gun related homicides.

Another point is that although these mass shootings get a lot of media attention and get everyone all worked up, they actually account for a very small percentage of gun deaths.

If they weren't so strict and citizens had the right to carry, the carnage likely would have ended sooner. Franc's strict laws didn't hamper the shooters at all.

You forgot this key point:

Highest officeholder in the nation actually believing and stating that the enemy SHOULD be destroyed, and doing it.

But the gun haters see us older folk that carry as loose cannons that will wildly discharge our weapons. That is far from what will happen. Those with ccl's that do carry (and why wouldn't they) will be a first line of defense against these nut cases with weapons.

It's probably too simple an idea to say that anti-Second Amendment folks should identify themselves so that when the terrorists come around, they know who are sympathizers and who we crazy gun-toting cowboys are. This way, I'm sure no harm will come to them. A little lapel pin, perhaps, or small sign in a window saying "No Gun Zone" would suit me just fine.

Australia's violent crime rate surged after they removed guns from the general population. And you've obviously never been to a gun show or you'd know that you cannot buy a weapon at any one of them without a background check; they are also well-monitored by the authorities.

Every fascist government has disarmed its citizens. If you've read about the African villages that have been annihilated recently, you know that Boko Haram, a radical Islamic group, does it before a massacre...it's the only way to ensure no resistance.

Closer to home, the government went door-to-door after Hurricane Katrina and confiscated the legal weapons of law-abiding citizens before they were forced to evacuate to mass shelters. Thugs still were able to smuggle weapons into the shelters and used the against the defenseless. There were rapes, robberies, beatings as a result...thugs doing what thugs do best.

These discussions can go on forever but I thought I would lend a few thoughts before this ends.

1st in this day and age you have to be vigilant. When in large crowds be aware of what is going on about you and where the exits are located. Loud popping noises today are probably not fireworks.

2nd if you decide to exercise your 2nd Amendment Rights get some training and practice with your weapon so as to be proficient. Remember once you fire that weapon you own that bullet no matter where it eventually comes to a stop. Many of the gun ranges, the NRA, and a other places provide firearms training.

3rd Be aware of what is going on in the neighbor, as I doubt there are people in this area planning an event you may hear something from someone else. Law enforcement can be very discreet about looking into something. See something, say something.

Remember your security is your responsibility. In most cases law enforcement shows up to write the report. They can't be everywhere instantly.

Before the terrorist attack in Paris I flew to NY. I was one of the first people to board. I got confused because my assigned seat was in the back of the plane. When I sat down I noticed a briefcase under the empty seat next to me. I quickly got the stewardess because that's what you're supposed to do if you see something not right. She saw the bag and told me the owner was in the back bathroom and thanked me.

It's peculiar to me why I first thought bomb instead of bathroom. And before 9/11 I probably would not have said anything.

Bravo for you. We all should speak up. This is one example of why people fear doing so. If this were said today, the U.S. Attorney General would already be prosecuting him for saying an honest, harmless personal observation that speaks for many across the nation....and everyone knows and can see his openness every day on television.

"[Liberal commentator Juan] Williams responded: "Look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country.

But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

NPR Fires Juan Williams 2010
NPR Ends Juan Williams' Contract After Muslim Remarks : NPR

I don't know, but other advanced and developed countries that have taken some steps to control guns have more success than we do in avoiding gun violence.

http://www.newsweek.com/gun-control-...untries-379105

The history of the frontier and myths around it still resonate within American culture. Growing up in Reno, Nevada sure gave me different attitudes towards rifles/handguns than those I have heard from people who were brought up in more urban areas like Chicago, DC, New York City, etc.

It was different though in the Twin Cities to a certain extent as many people there still seemed to hunt/fish/camp and the like.

There does not seem to be any simple solution to this but watching out for one another and getting back a sense of community in many areas. That seems like a matter of local governments, organizations, etc., and not something done by bureaucrats.

Here is where we stack up in the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

More info from duke.edu.

TEN MYTHS ABOUT GUN CONTROL

Copyright October 1994, NRA Institute for Legislative Action. This is the electronic version of the "10 Myths of Gun Control" brochure distributed by NRA. To obtain paper copies of this brochure, please call NRA Grassroots at 800/392-8683.

today the Supreme Court upheld lower court decisions to allow local communities to regulate military/assault rifles . Hooray!!!!

Glad your glad but there was more to that article.

And you think soul-less, bloodthirsty terrorists, felons and psychos will not have these weapons ANYWAY???????

Actually they declined to hear the case but you go ahead and believe what you want.

Not sure...........


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/us...-ill.html?_r=0

The story in California continues to evolve. The further they dig the more they uncover on possibly more people being involved. Saw another story were several middle eastern men were caught trying to cross the southern border. Homeland Security is now involved in that case (Not Related to California Case). I hope the FBI finds everyone involved in this attack.

Saw that in my FB timeline and re-posted it as well. Could not agree more with that sentiment!!

All good thoughts Steve, to be sure. In addition to the movie you mention (and actually, the book!), I would also suggest taking a rainy weekend to watch "Lawrence of Arabia" for an even more historical perspective on developments in that region. And for a short, but informative, read that might add some value to the narrative, tty Amazon for a strategy paper published by the National Strategy Information Center titled "Oil, Politics & Sea Power in the Indian Ocean Vortex.". Sounds heavy but it brings a lot to the discussion of goings on in the region.
Ciao!!

Still searching for the "Like" button.

I'm still liking the idea of those opposed to the Second Amendment posting "No Gun Zone" on their residences, in order to protect themselves - and their neighbors - in the event of a terrorist strike or home invasion...

Syed's Slush Fund
 

In the news this morning, investigators have discovered large money transfers into Syed's bank account long before the terrorist attack, and two transfers to the account of his mother. Details of this will emerge as the probe continues. If this is a sleeper cell, the FBI will figure it out, unless some higher authority shuts them down. In the meantime, the family "knew nothing of their son's anti-American activity"; they are, after all, peaceful muslims.

BTW, Their accomplice is spilling his guts to authorities as we speak. Evidently, the pipe bombs found were designed to kill first responders. Stay tuned...

This maybe a true statement but I'm unsure of your point. I believe that those who die from alcohol related causes are self inflicted how does that compare to those who die from gun violence?

Just trying to understand the logic....

Most "gun violence" stats include suicides and accidents, neither of which I consider "violence" anymore than alcohol related deaths.

Bump to focus on terrorism not guns.


It seems to me most gun deaths appear daily in the urban poor neighborhoods and involve the drug trade which is illegal. It appears between young men in the drug business. If you don't want to be killed by them stay away from illegal drugs and don't worry about taking guns from people. People have guns that want them and the sorry ass losers who deal drugs will get them by taking them from people who have them legally.


Interested in knowing that the innocent family of the terrorists received large money transfers. I only know a few heros in this country on this subject and they are the first responders and the FBI. It seems people in high places are dancing the side step until forced to polka.


OOOps that was kind of taunting and I just yelled at that guy day before yesterday for taunting.

Amen!

Here are some interesting/educational charts about gun events:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gun+...HcXADkIQsAQIGw

It seems that it is mostly men who talk about guns and mostly women who talk about ideology. Because testosterone programs men to protect and estrogen programs women to nurture?


There is a difference I think in how we view all violence too. I know that we in our home would each do anything to protect the lives of the others if a menacing person would try to harm any of us. (I COULD rip someone's eyes out)

How about the men who talk about the size of their guns?[emoji6]

You are witty and very smart and a good person, but you just changed the subject again.


Is it bigotry to collectively call people conservative or liberal? I mean it is grouping people together and addressing them as if they were not individuals.

I do believe this is the only way some can only speak with bravado about their beliefs.
Not only the grouping of people but the citing of either an individual or minority (not race) group as the general condition....my pet peeve.

Thank you for the additional background info, I will definitely look into it. In the movie "Charlie Wilsons War" the last statement by him at the end is very interesting. Proves we learn very little from history as we repeated the same mistake. Makes one wonder if the politics had not got in the way of reason back then, would we be in the situation we have today and would 9/11 have happened?

Thanks for the intelligent and educational post. :024: