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Old 04-03-2020, 12:32 PM
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San Francisco has now banned reusable grocery bags and has brought back the formerly maligned plastic grocery bags that many thought were a leading cause of our demise. Turns out that the filthy (in many cases) reusable bags were helping to spread the virus and who knows what else.

San Francisco bans reusable bags in coronavirus fight | TheHill

The irony is obvious. Turns out that green is unclean in this instance.

Many other questions arise about the wisdom of some otherwise trendy and “eco-friendly” policies bestowed upon us by the more enlightened in our society. That’s probably best left to separate threads.

In the meantime, I wonder if SF will re-institute the use of reusable bags when the crisis is over?
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I can understand that but do you feel strongly enough then to outlaw the use of plastic bags?
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I can understand that but do you feel strongly enough then to outlaw the use of plastic bags?
Seriously, I was kidding. I shouldn't have joked about that, now the turtle lovers will come after me.
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Seriously, I was kidding. I shouldn't have joked about that, now the turtle lovers will come after me.
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What this shows is that the government in San Francisco pays attention to events and adjusts its regulations as needed. What an awful example of how the government should work. They, like so many other areas, felt that the risk/benefit analysis in normal conditions justified banning plastic bags due to the well establish danger to the environment.

When the risk/benefit changed to now perhaps those reused bags being a Covid risk they altered the policy. In this situation the plastic bags were safer at least in the short term.

Scoff all you like, but I see this as how government should work. Agile and concerned both with human life and with the world. Imagine actually using science to influence policy.
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San Francisco has now banned reusable grocery bags and has brought back the formerly maligned plastic grocery bags that many thought were a leading cause of our demise. Turns out that the filthy (in many cases) reusable bags were helping to spread the virus and who knows what else.

San Francisco bans reusable bags in coronavirus fight | TheHill

The irony is obvious. Turns out that green is unclean in this instance.



Many other questions arise about the wisdom of some otherwise trendy and “eco-friendly” policies bestowed upon us by the more enlightened in our society. That’s probably best left to separate threads.

In the meantime, I wonder if SF will re-institute the use of reusable bags when the crisis is over?
So, my reusable cloth bags in my trunk inferior for two weeks plus still have virus living in the fabric. Amazing, we are NEVER going to get rid of it.
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What this shows is that the government in San Francisco pays attention to events and adjusts its regulations as needed. What an awful example of how the government should work. They, like so many other areas, felt that the risk/benefit analysis in normal conditions justified banning plastic bags due to the well establish danger to the environment.

When the risk/benefit changed to now perhaps those reused bags being a Covid risk they altered the policy. In this situation the plastic bags were safer at least in the short term.

Scoff all you like, but I see this as how government should work. Agile and concerned both with human life and with the world. Imagine actually using science to influence policy.
You do know you’re talking about SF right. They have big section just off downtown the cops and EMT’s won’t go in with armor protection.
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What this shows is that the government in San Francisco pays attention to events and adjusts its regulations as needed. What an awful example of how the government should work. They, like so many other areas, felt that the risk/benefit analysis in normal conditions justified banning plastic bags due to the well establish danger to the environment.

When the risk/benefit changed to now perhaps those reused bags being a Covid risk they altered the policy. In this situation the plastic bags were safer at least in the short term.

Scoff all you like, but I see this as how government should work. Agile and concerned both with human life and with the world. Imagine actually using science to influence policy.

Yes, science is good (a strawman) and it's pretty easy to imagine. But I think most of the urge was a combination of SF lefties feeling good and virtue signalling. Look, I'm a nice person and saving the planet. Hey, just my two cents.
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So, my reusable cloth bags in my trunk inferior for two weeks plus still have virus living in the fabric. Amazing, we are NEVER going to get rid of it.
Yours would pass muster. The issue was regular users never ever cleaned the reusable bags and were filthy .. in some cases, disgusting according to what I've read.
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You do know you’re talking about SF right. They have big section just off downtown the cops and EMT’s won’t go in with armor protection.
I don't blame them ... in the least.

I don't have the stats at hand but other effects of soft-headed social policies and virtue signalling, among other things, also make SF a car thief's paradise. The cops don't typically respond due to frequency. It's a beautiful dystopia in some ways.
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I’ve had personnel at Publix tell me that they don’t even want to touch some of the reusable bags people use as they’re dirty and nasty and smelly. Why not just go back to the paper bags we all grew up with. They’re reusable for so many things and can easily be recycled.
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I’ve had personnel at Publix tell me that they don’t even want to touch some of the reusable bags people use as they’re dirty and nasty and smelly. Why not just go back to the paper bags we all grew up with. They’re reusable for so many things and can easily be recycled.
Agree. Common sense should trump emotion, or so it would seem
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