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Pturner 06-22-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 509928)
I predict they will find him guilty on most counts. It could be that on a few counts the jury might decide not enough evidence to prove.

Just hope he never gets out of prison.

Guess I win the office pool.

2BNTV 06-22-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 510085)

He will seving a vitual life sentence according to a newsflash on televioion.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy - NOT!!!!!!

A despicable predator.

jane032657 06-22-2012 10:20 PM

In replying to a post above, it is not true that all child sexual predators have been abused. Child abuse is often born out of power and control and the ability to get away with it. I fostered 55 children, many victims of sexual and physical abuse as well as ran non profit organizations who helped children who were abused. What scares me as much as Sandusky is all the others who are under the radar, and who now continue not only to do what Sandusky has been charged with, but who also have access to internet and the easy access it provides to capturing innocent children. Jerry Sandusky is not an anomoly, he is just more high profile and caught the attention of the world. The less known abusers, like those in your neighborhoods that you never knew, or in your kids schools or Boy Scouts or even closer, the relative that everyone knew something about but no one, like in the Sandusky case, ever stepped forward, those people are not on tv but most often, they are not brought to trial either. And the victims suffer in silence and do not feel safe to step up and rock the family boat. Little do they know that the boat sunk long ago.

graciegirl 06-22-2012 10:21 PM

He showed NO emotion. NONE. Sickening. They handcuffed him in front, a kindness that he didn't deserve.

I saw his wife and wondered if somewhere she just had to suspect something.

jimbo2012 06-22-2012 10:22 PM

There's going to long line of visitors to his cell.

Hi Jerry

http://onpoint.wbur.org/files/2012/04/040212-02.jpg

Joaniesmom 06-23-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SoccerCoach (Post 509918)
Hopefully they will do what they are charged with. Think for a moment how this may have been, had the admistration of Penn State acted differently when they were informed.

I keep hearing that Joepa didn't tell the police about the incident. But campus police have all the powers of any other police force and the VP he reported the incident to was head of the campus police.

As far as I'm concerned, Joe Paterno is one of the finest men who ever walked this earth and they killed him. One lady they interviewed today on HLN put it perfectly. I have a hole in my heart.

Rest in Peace, Joe

I won't waste a single word on that other individual.

graciegirl 06-23-2012 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jane032657 (Post 510098)
In replying to a post above, it is not true that all child sexual predators have been abused. Child abuse is often born out of power and control and the ability to get away with it. I fostered 55 children, many victims of sexual and physical abuse as well as ran non profit organizations who helped children who were abused. What scares me as much as Sandusky is all the others who are under the radar, and who now continue not only to do what Sandusky has been charged with, but who also have access to internet and the easy access it provides to capturing innocent children. Jerry Sandusky is not an anomoly, he is just more high profile and caught the attention of the world. The less known abusers, like those in your neighborhoods that you never knew, or in your kids schools or Boy Scouts or even closer, the relative that everyone knew something about but no one, like in the Sandusky case, ever stepped forward, those people are not on tv but most often, they are not brought to trial either. And the victims suffer in silence and do not feel safe to step up and rock the family boat. Little do they know that the boat sunk long ago.

Jane,

The attorney general who spoke last night really came across with some good final words very much like yours.

Now when I hear of a male teaching kindergarten or first grade, or a single guy being a scout leader, or even when I see on TV the ads for poor children in other lands and some man holding a child in those ads and the child looks so frightened, my mind jumps to the possibility that here could be another pedophile.

You just cannot help but wonder. The principle in our elementary school was a pedophile. He was always trying to hug the girls and when later talking to old friends we all remember feeling icky everytime he was around.

It came out later he impregnated a sixth grade girl and then he commited suicide in the school basement by closing himself in a room and turning on the gas..

And of course there are the female teachers too...and they are usually very good looking.

I just don't understand, but it makes me SO mad, so disgusted and so confused as to how to help.

And horribly, there will be the awful other side too, that some teens will accuse innocent people. This is all just awful.

Taltarzac725 06-23-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 510146)
Jane,

The attorney general who spoke last night really came across with some good final words very much like yours.

Now when I hear of a male teaching kindergarten or first grade, or a single guy being a scout leader, or even when I see on TV the ads for poor children in other lands and some man holding a child in those ads and the child looks so frightened, my mind jumps to the possibility that here could be another pedophile.

You just cannot help but wonder. The principle in our elementary school was a pedophile. He was always trying to hug the girls and when later talking to old friends we all remember feeling icky everytime he was around.

It came out later he impregnated a sixth grade girl and then he commited suicide in the school basement by closing himself in a room and turning on the gas..

And of course there are the female teachers too...and they are usually very good looking.

I just don't understand, but it makes me SO mad, so disgusted and so confused as to how to help.

And horribly, there will be the awful other side too, that some teens will accuse innocent people. This is all just awful.

We need more education about this problem of child sexual abuse available to parents, teachers, psychologists, and others. Think the problem rests mostly on the justice system in the US and its emphasis on control of the system through bureaucratic checks and balances which often do not work if there are other factors involved like a very popular college football team and its image.

This could end up railroading the innocent if the image of the football team (Penn State) is more important than the rights of both defendants and victims.


The same thing seemed to happen with the Catholic Church and abuse by clergy. The Church's image was more important that the rights of both the defendants as well as those of the abused kids.

NotGolfer 06-23-2012 08:22 AM

There are NO winners in this whole debacle!! NONE!!! Those young men will NEVER be the same again. I have to wonder about the wife....how could she not know "something" strange was going on??!!??

There have probably always been child molesters but now we have the media that lets us know about it. Remember our folks telling us "do NOT get into a car with a stranger!"...and the like! I've heard though, generally these folks are people who know our children--be they a relative or close family friend.

billethkid 06-23-2012 10:15 AM

there is no way those above him were not ever aware. Another cloistered circle the wagons while the innocent pay the price of a wrecked life.

Right VS wrong is abused again......some consolation that this man was convicted on almost all counts....now watch the legal buzzards get in on the fall out scenarios.


btk

Villages PL 06-23-2012 12:33 PM

Where was talk radio during all of this? I don't have time to listen to all of talk radio, but I do catch a little here and there. Over the past several weeks I don't recall hearing anything about it. What did they do, circle the wagons in silence?

In the past, whenever there was an issue about preditors, there was plenty of long lasting coverage. I couldn't help but hear it even if I only listened occasionally.

Here's the reason, in my opinion. Commercial radio is pro-football because football represents a financial bonanza for the fast-food industry and radio is aligned with the industry that pays it to advertise fast food. So it seems that radio has decided not to put football in a bad light by saying anything regarding this issue. Follow the money!

Now I'm waiting for a football lover to make excuses for talk-radio.

ilovetv 06-23-2012 12:50 PM

Does anyone ever use the noun "PERVERT" anymore???? A PERVERT is what this guy is and the other compromised "adults" around him knew it......but when are people going to tell KIDS what kind of pervert a guy is known to be??

When we were kids, people would say "Stay away from that pervert over there." Twenty years ago, preschool and elementary school teachers and policemen would talk to kids about "Inappropriate Touching" and "Strangers". That was getting vague enough....but now this society is so hung up on "not racially profiling" and "not being judgemental" that it is essentially telling kids not to make a judgement between good and bad. Pop culture and Junk Psychology has made so many excuses for PERVERSION and PERVERTS that kids have become desensitized to the evil that perverts like Sandusky can inflict on them.

When language and vocabulary become so watered down and weakened, so do the concepts and judgement calls behind those words.

Look at the definition below. When was the last time you heard a person use the example sentence it contains?


Definition of PERVERT

: one that has been perverted; specifically : one given to some form of sexual perversion

Examples of PERVERT

Longtime residents warned us not to go near the neighborhood pervert.

First Known Use of PERVERT

circa 1661

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pervert

graciegirl 06-23-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by villages pl (Post 510307)
where was talk radio during all of this? I don't have time to listen to all of talk radio, but i do catch a little here and there. Over the past several weeks i don't recall hearing anything about it. What did they do, circle the wagons in silence?

In the past, whenever there was an issue about preditors, there was plenty of long lasting coverage. I couldn't help but hear it even if i only listened occasionally.

Here's the reason, in my opinion. Commercial radio is pro-football because football represents a financial bonanza for the fast-food industry and radio is alligned with the industry that pays it to advertise fast food. So it seems that radio has decided not to put football in a bad light by saying anything regarding this issue. Follow the money!

Now i'm waiting for a football lover to make excuses for talk-radio.

huh?

Taltarzac725 06-23-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 510307)
Where was talk radio during all of this? I don't have time to listen to all of talk radio, but I do catch a little here and there. Over the past several weeks I don't recall hearing anything about it. What did they do, circle the wagons in silence?

In the past, whenever there was an issue about preditors, there was plenty of long lasting coverage. I couldn't help but hear it even if I only listened occasionally.

Here's the reason, in my opinion. Commercial radio is pro-football because football represents a financial bonanza for the fast-food industry and radio is alligned with the industry that pays it to advertise fast food. So it seems that radio has decided not to put football in a bad light by saying anything regarding this issue. Follow the money!

Now I'm waiting for a football lover to make excuses for talk-radio.

It is just old news for talk radio would be my opinion. I doubt if it is the money for football via the fast food industry and advertising.

senior citizen 06-23-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 509929)
How will his new future room mates welcome him?

We heard on the news that he will be "kept away from the general population".

He probably will be housed with other like minded older men....of which there are many being convicted of late.

Considering who the jury was, I had thought there might be a "hung jury" even though he was quilty as sin..........but the victims' stories were so intense and heart wrenching that defending an "institution" just wouldn't work this time around.

Justice was served. Even "troubled youth" don't deserve what he did to them......just amazing that his wife heard nothing or suspected nothing all those years. I think that she either was extremely naive and just not well read........or totally controlled by him.

Obviously, that type of thing was swept under the rug in her day......and ours.


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