[MandoMan]

This is good news for Denmark. It’s potentially even better news for The Villages. The Tri-County area has less than 1% total who have been diagnosed positive for the virus. Based on a total population of 130,000 at The Villages (I know it is less now, but I don’t know how much less, only 1/17th part of 1% of the Villagers have been tested positive. Of course, there may be a lot more who have or have had the virus, but those are the current released numbers. They are very hopeful. The biggest danger is probably people who live outside The Villages in crowded housing and haven’t paid much attention to the social distancing guidelines and now come here to serve you food and sell you things. It’s also more dangerous for them, as they are in contact with so many people. I would like them to all wear masks and gloves for another month.

[RoadToad]

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1764302]Denmark apparently has epidemiologists that are smarter than Dr Fauci. QUOTE]


No.. Denmark has leadership smart enough to LISTEN to their epidemiologists.
USA doesn't.
The issue is NOT Fauci's "smartness"

[Lindsyburnsy]

It has been reported that the people of Denmark actually made it their responsibility to follow all of the stay safe policies put forward early on. Our Administration ignored the intelligence reports for months , then when CV19 showed no mercy here , we ended up with protesters with long guns invading capitol bldgs.rather than wear a mask and social distance. See the difference?

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Maybe Denmark represents a realistic combination of science and common sense.

Here In America there is far too much political and media driven fear and wild a$$ guesstimating.....hence common sense doesn't get much play.

I beg to differ; scientists give their best understandings and the politicians make the decisions. In America there has been far to much political and media driven pressure to reopen in places that shouldn't be reopening. There are places where reopening but common sense is lacking in, for example, directives about meat packing plants.

[GoodLife]

[QUOTE=RoadToad;1764643]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Denmark apparently has epidemiologists that are smarter than Dr Fauci. QUOTE]


No.. Denmark has leadership smart enough to LISTEN to their epidemiologists.
USA doesn't.
The issue is NOT Fauci's "smartness"

I wonder if our administration was listening to Dr Fauci when he said "the risk is miniscule" "it's not something the American public needs to worry about" " "It's very very low risk to the United States" "facemasks not necessary for healthy people" "travel bans don't work" "pandemics are never spread by the asymptomatic" etc etc

Since those statements he has done a 180 and reversed course, most likely because he knows they were stupendous blunders.

[skyking]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Actually it must be correct because it is what the poster wants to believe....always find an "expert" that suits your agenda right?

Yes and you've proved it.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

I beg to differ; scientists give their best understandings and the politicians make the decisions. In America there has been far to much political and media driven pressure to reopen in places that shouldn't be reopening. There are places where reopening but common sense is lacking in, for example, directives about meat packing plants.

I am looking at European countries who have reopened because.

1. Many of them like Denmark have done so before some states in USA, so we can see how its working and learn from it.
2. Europe is about the same size as USA geographically, but more densely populated (500 million vs 300 million)
3. Just like USA, each country, like our states, is trying different things.
4. Looking at Europe takes US politics out of the equation.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Denmark apparently has epidemiologists that are smarter than Dr Fauci.


A second wave of the new coronavirus is unlikely in Denmark as the reproduction rate has stayed below a key threshold since restrictions were eased a month ago, a top health expert said Tuesday.

The reproduction rate has fallen from 1.0 at the end of April to 0.7 in the first week in May, according to the state-run infectious disease prevention agency SSI, the nation's top institute of its kind.

A reproduction rate of 1.0 means that one person with COVID-19 infects on average just one other, while a rate of less than 1.0 indicates that the spread is declining.
"If the virus were allowed to spread freely and we were doing nothing, then it would be likely that we would have a second wave of COVID-19 ... but we have learned more about how to handle this illness," SSI expert Kare Molbak told reporters.

Denmark shut down schools, shops, restaurants and businesses in mid-March in a bid to curb the spread of the disease.

It was the first country in Europe to reopen its nursery and primary schools on April 15.
Since then small businesses like hair salons, dentist offices and tattoo parlours have been allowed to reopen, followed this week by shopping centres and department stores.

This progressive return to normal life has not led to an increase in the number of confirmed cases, with the reproduction rate remaining below 1.0.

Second coronavirus wave unlikely in Denmark: top expert

Denmark has a National Health Care which is superior to the US system. They also started early and may have used the knowledge gained from S.Korea. The US was slow to use its tools like the DPA. Denmark had better national buy-in from its government and its citizens. The US could be better compared to Brazil.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Denmark has a National Health Care which is superior to the US system. They also started early and may have used the knowledge gained from S.Korea. The US was slow to use its tools like the DPA. Denmark had better national buy-in from its government and its citizens. The US could be better compared to Brazil.

This thread is about Denmark reopening and how they are doing it. See if we can learn something as we begin to do the same.

Comparing how various countries responded initially to the pandemic is a completely different topic. Brazil is a mess and many think it will be the new hotspot.

[Baywayric]

Originally Posted by davem4616

Denmark has a population of 5.8 million...the US has 328.2
Denmark consists of 16.6 square miles...the US 3.8 Million
Denmark has 4 international airports...the US has 149

Sorry, Denmark has 16,000+ square miles.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

I don't think most countries have people willing to trash their economy in order to gain an advantage.

What advantage? Most countries do not begin to match the US in $ amounts in the US Treasury, so they are more likely to do what is necessary to get BACK TO WORK. No free money for everybody. Many of us, however, are reluctant to do what is necessary, thinking, I imagine, that our bodies and minds will give us the cue when it's time to go back to work. Many seem to be inordinately attracted to their gut, as if your bowels will give you the answers you seek. Like many, I've been in my home constantly since March 13. That's only 60 days. What would YOU do if you HAD to stay in until November?

[Aloha1]

Another data point to watch is Australia and New Zealand. They are entering their "November" period, when a second wave of Wuhan Virus had been predicted to occur. Hasn't happened yet and that bodes well for us this coming Fall. Keep in mind that virologists look to Australia and Southeast Asia first to see what flu strains are emerging to determine what should go into the flu shot you should get this September.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Another data point to watch is Australia and New Zealand. They are entering their "November" period, when a second wave of Wuhan Virus had been predicted to occur. Hasn't happened yet and that bodes well for us this coming Fall. Keep in mind that virologists look to Australia and Southeast Asia first to see what flu strains are emerging to determine what should go into the flu shot you should get this September.

Good point will take a look at Oz and the kiwis thanks!

[Baywayric]

68% Say Lockdown Shouldn't End Until All Diseases Are Eradicated And There Is No War, Hunger, Or Suffering

U.S.—A new poll has been released that shows most Americans are comfortable with staying in lockdown for a while longer. In fact, according to the poll, a full 68% of Americans say the lockdown shouldn’t end until all diseases are eradicated, along with war, hunger, and any form of suffering.

This sentiment was repeated by many different Americans. “Opening up before everything that could hurt people has been eliminated could just lead to people dying,” said Kelvin Grant, an online journalist, who spoke via Zoom. “Let’s just hide in place until everything bad goes away.”

“As long as there are diseases and other bad things out there, it’s only safe to stay inside away from everyone else,” agreed Grace Wilson, a web designer, who spoke through a mail slot. “Like I saw a wasp outside the other day. We shouldn’t go outside until all wasps are gone. Or else someone could get stung. Stung by a wasp.”

A number of governors expressed solidarity with the poll results. “Everyone really should stay locked down and do everything I tell them until all bad things are gone,” said Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. “Anything else could lead to death, disease, wasp stings, stubbed toes -- lots of badness. That’s why if anyone is outside when I tell them not to be, the police will shoot them.”

Since eliminating all bad things could take a long time, there are now some new initiatives to help people shelter in place for months longer, including instructions on how to burrow underground and live as mole people.

*Note, on the off chance it's not obvious, this is sarcasm *

[024engine]

What does Denmark have to do with us?