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2BNTV 10-11-2011 12:48 PM

I called SS 3 months prior to my 65th birthday and they said I would be better off if I waited and didn't apply for Medicare as I was covered under my companies policy. I would be better off waiting until I wanted to receive a check from SS and they would deduct the payment from my check. I applied for Medicare several months later.

I was dismayed to find that I pay $110.50 instead of $94.20 if I had applied on my 65th birthday. I have talked to several people and no one can really explain why some people are paying more than others.

I still don't know why I pay $110.50/mo. The best SS could come with is that everone will have to start paying $110.50/mo.

I was wondering if this is true? Everything else they told me was on the money. Sometimes I think one needs to call two or three times to see if they get the same answer from their representatives.

Birthday is on the 4th and I get my check the second Wednesday of the month. SS explanation is that way the system doesn't get clogged-up with sending everyone's check out on the first day of the month which makes sense.

I only COLA I have heard about lately is the soft drink. :1rotfl:

l2ridehd 10-11-2011 01:00 PM

I applied 3 months prior to the desired start date. I guess I will just work another month or two and wait for Medicare to start. My issue is I don't want a gap in coverage for health care. And 2BNTV, everyone pays a different amount depending on prior year earnings. Because of some windfall bonus payments, my Medicare will be $460 a month. Supposedly I can go back after two years and apply for a reduction, but I don't have much faith anything will go down.

2BNTV 10-11-2011 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=l2ridehd;404818]2BNTV, everyone pays a different amount depending on prior year earnings.

l2ridehd:

Thanks for the explanation but it still bothers me they coudn't explain it clearly.

I am certainly glad you verified this is the case. I value you thoughts. :)

aljetmet 10-11-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 404816)
I called SS 3 months prior to my 65th birthday and they said I would be better off if I waited and didn't apply for Medicare as I was covered under my companies policy. I would be better off waiting until I wanted to receive a check from SS and they would deduct the payment from my check. I applied for Medicare several months later.

I was dismayed to find that I pay $110.50 instead of $94.20 if I had applied on my 65th birthday. I have talked to several people and no one can really explain why some people are paying more than others.

I still don't know why I pay $110.50/mo. The best SS could come with is that everone will have to start paying $110.50/mo.

I was wondering if this is true? Everything else they told me was on the money. Sometimes I think one needs to call two or three times to see if they get the same answer from their representatives.

Birthday is on the 4th and I get my check the second Wednesday of the month. SS explanation is that way the system doesn't get clogged-up with sending everyone's check out on the first day of the month which makes sense.

I only COLA I have heard about lately is the soft drink. :1rotfl:

My wife went on medicare 1/1/11 as she is on disability, not yet 65 and we chose to save the $7,500 her medical insurance would have been on my company's plan. She is paying $115 per mo the max medicare charges. I understand that your cost is based on the year you start plus it can be higher if your income is over a certain level....

mac9 10-11-2011 03:02 PM

According to SS regulations, you are eligible for SSA the month FOLLOWING your 65th birthday. Also, since its inception, SSA has paid back one month, not for the current month. The check that you receive in January is to cover December. Checks are sent out based on the date of your birthday...dates of 1-9 are paid on the second Wednesday of the month, etc. so that some payments are not made until the 4th Wednesday of the month. Medicare costs can be anywhere from $96/month to $150/month, based on some sort of convoluted computation of income from other retirement sources, and availability of household income.

Mudder 10-11-2011 03:09 PM

I think that I remember when I first got ss because my birthday is on the first of the month I got ss for the month before my 65th birthday. Who knows why , guess they'll stop it the month before my death ! LOL.

2BNTV 10-11-2011 05:53 PM

12ridehd, almetjet and mac9.

I love this forum as people can discuss and gain knowledge from others.

aljetmet - I agree it is very cheap but it was not so much the cost in my particular case but they couldn't give me an expanation as well as you guys did. :)

l2ridehd 10-11-2011 05:56 PM

Cost of Medicare depends on your prior year income. It can go as high as $115.40 for basic plus $253.70 due to income plus $69.10 for prescriptions or a total of $428.20 a month.

Virtual Geezer 10-11-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 404771)
I hear you. I just applied, too. My birth date is November but will not get first check until end of January.

I just checked my paperwork as my birthday is in November and it says that I will receive my first check in December and it will have two months of Medicare payments taken from the first check. My Medicare coverage will begin on November 1. I applied back on August 2 if that makes any difference.

Another thing about payments being one month behind when my mother passed away on January 30 I had to pay them back for one month. I could never figure that one out.

kathy and al 10-12-2011 05:49 AM

As 2BNTV points out - "this forum allows people to discuss and gain knowledge from others" but what is amazing to me is how varied this knowledge really is about a subject that should have some conciseness to it. Many different experiences, many different interpretations of the rules, etc. by many different people. Our government at work I suppose!!! Thanks to all who have taken the time input their experiences.

Jim Straz 10-12-2011 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aljetmet (Post 404814)
My point exactly, if you haven't been looking we've experienced a bit of inflation over the past 12 months. A cola is due for 2012.

There will be a COLA in January 2012.

http://www.bloomberg.com/portfolio-i...djustment.html

2BNTV 10-12-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kathy and al (Post 405085)
As 2BNTV points out - "this forum allows people to discuss and gain knowledge from others" but what is amazing to me is how varied this knowledge really is about a subject that should have some conciseness to it. Many different experiences, many different interpretations of the rules, etc. by many different people. Our government at work I suppose!!! Thanks to all who have taken the time input their experiences.

Thank you for posting this response. I totally agree with your post about the conciseness of the rules as this is the point I am trying to make. One must call SS to find out in their case what is the applicable rule/s and get a consistent/concise answer if one calls more than once.. SS has done everything they should except for the clarification of that one issue. It is a vast system that serves millions of people so errors do occur so I try to exercise due diligence.

To illustrate my point and mistakes do happen::

A friend of mine pased away and his wife called SS to let them know to stop the receipt of his check. While explaining who she was, SS informed her they had her listed as deceased. She replied, "do I sound dead". It took her several months of phone calls to start receiving her check again.

This may sound amusing but it wasn't to her.

Lou and Carolyn C. 10-12-2011 10:15 AM

This Medicare/SS stuff can boggle the mind!! I am retired and my husband is still working (self-employed), we have medical through BC/BS and the premiums are taken out of my monthly annuity, that being said, my husband called SS back in April 2011 to schedule an appointment 3 months prior to his 65th birthday, which is/was Aug 5th, his appt. was scheduled May 9th 2011, and he signed on for Medicare. Received a bill in July 2011 for 3 month payments of $346.20 due by July 25th 2011, just received another bill for same amount to be paid by Oct. 25th 2011, this will continue in this manner (with increases I’m sure) until he retires and signs up for Social Security and starts receiving a monthly check, and then he can choose to have Medicare taken from his SS check on a monthly basis @$115.40(or whatever it is by the time he retires).
I suppose he could have this done on a monthly basis “NOW” if he chooses, by calling SS and asking, not too sure about all this, but it would be much easier on the pocketbook if $115.40 could be paid out of a checking account, for example, instead of $346.20 every 3 months. Has anyone else encountered this same situation?
Next year 2012 I will be turning 65 and will be going through this same process, except since I’m already retired the $115.40(est.) will be coming right off the top of my monthly annuity payment, as well as the BC/BS premiums, which becomes our secondary coverage. I may need to look into a lesser premium health coverage, so the monthly premiums between Medicare & Secondary Coverage equals what is being taken out NOW. So much to think about!!!
The standard Part B premium in 2011 was $115.40 or $346.20 every 3 months, we chose to keep the Prescription Drug through BC/BS as it is equivalent to Medicare Part D.
Part A is Premium Free if you or your spouse paid Medicare taxes while working.
ALL COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS/RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WELCOME!!

aljetmet 10-12-2011 10:47 AM

You need to discuss with your insurance agent the medical plans that supplement Medicare. ie a "Medicare Advantage plan" which covers the three main parts that everyone needs coverage. This increases your benefits for medicare part A (hospital) medicare part B (medical) and medicare part D (drugs).

Go to medicare.gov and look for medical and drug coverage. You put in your zip code and every plan pops up that is available. You can enter your drugs, get an estimate and compare the plans. It's a great tool.

Good luck!

Mudder 10-12-2011 10:58 AM

Lou and Carol C...MOVE OUT OF Mass !! You will be surprised at how your Medicare and/or supplemental costs will go down when/if you move to The Villages. We could never move back to Mass(not that we would want to anyway), the health costs are way over the top there.


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