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Old 05-20-2020, 12:57 PM
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Wuhan Virus? Do you mean the corona virus or covid 19? Please, you are showing your political stripes in your rather interesting “scientific” article.
Read Post #63. I gave the scientific rationale for the naming. It is correct.
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If the 77 degree temperature reduces the rate of infection, why is it that Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties have the majority of the infections in FL? Makes no sense.
The key word is REDUCES. It does not eliminate it. As to South Florida, what I have read is that social distancing was only a "suggestion" to many people plus the return of cruise ship passengers and international travel from Europe through MIA brought positive cases.

Once the virus is in your body, you are infected and the disease will run it's course regardless of body temp.
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And according to the Italians, after conducting 50+ autopsies, this virus is not respiratory at all. It is a circulatory thrombosis (clotting) virus that we should be treating with antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, and antu-coagulants. No degree of ventilating the lungs will eliminate blood clots forming in the lungs. So who do we believe?
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The world goes around on beliefs!
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Be very careful of who you trust these days. Remember when we used to trust the news?
I remember when we used to blindly trust every word from any journeyman on TV. (well, many of us)

Thank goodness! NOW we trust every word written as opinion on TotV. Any difference?
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Wow two encouraging statements in the first post then boom. Down the tubes you all go. I was told this was not a nice place. Now I see why.
Honestly, if you don't want to be rabidly frustrated, now is the time to pull out of this awkward and sometimes bleak discussion format. imho
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The world goes around on beliefs
All too often, regardless of facts....or the truth.
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Yes correct, I put the Dr Fauci quotes up there for those that think he's the second coming and to remind them that the chief epidemiologist of the USA was giving some bad advice to the administration. Fauci also initially argued against the China travel ban and said they don't work. The genetic studies tracing the virus I've posted show that most of the infections in USA came from Europe to New York City, and from New York City to the rest of USA. Not direct from China.
1, Shame all over you for stating that ANYBODY with a head and heart would believe that Dr. Fauci is Jesus returning to us. That is a very dishonest and denigrating put down which I would not expect from a "veteran" poster. You've seen enough crap in TotV to know that put downs reflect on YOU rather than the poster you're responding to.
2. The Asian source, I think, came from China, through Asia, and to our west coast. Now, "veteran", what kind of garbage will you spew out about me?
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:23 PM
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i think nobody expected this disease to get out of hand. i distinctly remember @ 1 point fauci saying we didnt need masks, or any type of restrictions because the virus was of little concern to us. boy has that changed!!!
Like many of us, I listened to about 90% of all TV appearances this year of Dr. Fauci. Two problems: there is no finesse in bringing back early, ignorant statements a person makes before experiencing a difference that makes one change one's mind.

Second problem: However, I never heard him or Dr. Birks say that it was of "little concern to us". Do you recall roughly what date he said that on? I recorded all those appearances.
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- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!
Could you supply some links to support your claims? You can post links on this site, contrary to another post. I have done it. If you don't supply links, your comment is just a bunch of crap.
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:29 PM
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- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!
The news articles such as the one I have posted below tend to go against what you are saying:

Moderna’s early coronavirus vaccine results lack crucial data – BGR

Once again, could you please post some links to back up what you posted?
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