[diamond2005]

Wuhan to Shanghai - 839 km
Wuhan to Bejing - 1,152 km
Wuhan to NY - 12,033 km
Wuhan to Milan - 8,684 km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan, yet there is no effect of it in nearby Bejing or Shanghai, but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.

It has reached every corner if the world, but the virus did not reach China’s capitol Beijing, and their economic Capitol Shanghai, located close to Wuhan.

Beijing is where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lockdown there.
Austrailia’a Home Minister, Britain’s Prime Minister, Spain’s PM’s wife, Canada’s PM’s wife, Prince Charles, among others, have contracted this virus but, NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY LEADER in China have tested positive for this virus.

This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.

Believe what you may!

[JP]

Agree. Really can't trust the chinese communist party. They think in terms of a thousand years, we think in terms of days hence their "plans" are very different from ours.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by diamond2005

Wuhan to Shanghai - 839 km
Wuhan to Bejing - 1,152 km
Wuhan to NY - 12,033 km
Wuhan to Milan - 8,684 km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan, yet there is no effect of it in nearby Bejing or Shanghai, but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.

It has reached every corner if the world, but the virus did not reach China’s capitol Beijing, and their economic Capitol Shanghai, located close to Wuhan.

Beijing is where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lockdown there.
Austrailia’a Home Minister, Britain’s Prime Minister, Spain’s PM’s wife, Canada’s PM’s wife, Prince Charles, among others, have contracted this virus but, NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY LEADER in China have tested positive for this virus.

This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.

Believe what you may!

Really? Deal in facts often????

Here is a breakdown of cases of COVID 19 in China:

China (mainland) cases
Updated Apr 7 at 9:46 AM local
Confirmed
81,740
+32
Deaths
3,331
Recovered
77,167
+89

Confirmed
Deaths
Recovered
Hubei
67,803
3,212
64,014
Guangdong
1,532
8
1,395
Henan
1,276
22
1,252
Zhejiang
1,264
1
1,230
Hunan
1,019
4
1,014
Anhui
990
6
984
Jiangxi
937
1
935
Shandong
781
7
755
Jiangsu
651
0
633
Beijing
587
8
448
Chongqing
579
6
570
Sichuan
560
3
541
Heilongjiang
544
13
469
Shanghai
538
6
389
Fujian
351
1
305
Hebei
327
6
312
Shaanxi
256
3
246
Guangxi Zhuang
254
2
252
Yunnan
184
2
173
Tianjin
180
3
151
Hainan
168
6
162
Guizhou
147
2
144
Liaoning
144
2
130
Gansu
139
2
132
Shanxi
138
0
133
Inner Mongolia
121
1
74
Jilin
98
1
92
Xinjiang
76
3
73
Ningxia
75
0
75
Qinghai
18
0
18
Xizang
1
0
1
Sorry, columns did not copy well. First number under the city is total cases, then deaths, then recovered

[redwitch]

But we also have to consider that China has not been very forthcoming about people actually infected and dying from COVID-19. Shanghai and Beijing may very well have been hit a lot harder than we know.

Is it possible that it’s a conspiracy by China? Maybe. Is it probable? Who knows. One thing about viruses: once they’re let loose they’re pretty hard to contain or control. A bacteria would be much easier to set upon the world and do no harm to China. I wouldn’t be surprised if China has a vaccine they’re not sharing with the world. That would make a lot more sense.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Really? Deal in facts often????

Here is a breakdown of cases of COVID 19 in China:

China (mainland) cases
Updated Apr 7 at 9:46 AM local
Confirmed
81,740
+32
Deaths
3,331
Recovered
77,167
+89


633
Beijing
587
8
448
C
Sorry, columns did not copy well. First number under the city is total cases, then deaths, then recovered

I think the Chinese are lying. Bejing numbers in particular seem ... artificially low.

The reason I think they are lying is because the country is run, with an iron fist, by the Chinese Communist Party.

Talk about "dealing in facts often?" ... you should know better.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by diamond2005

Wuhan to Shanghai - 839 km
Wuhan to Bejing - 1,152 km
Wuhan to NY - 12,033 km
Wuhan to Milan - 8,684 km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan, yet there is no effect of it in nearby Bejing or Shanghai, but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.

It has reached every corner if the world, but the virus did not reach China’s capitol Beijing, and their economic Capitol Shanghai, located close to Wuhan.

Beijing is where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lockdown there.
Austrailia’a Home Minister, Britain’s Prime Minister, Spain’s PM’s wife, Canada’s PM’s wife, Prince Charles, among others, have contracted this virus but, NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY LEADER in China have tested positive for this virus.

This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.

Believe what you may!

Many of our enlightened folk will dismiss your thinking because, in reality, contemplating this view is actually quite sobering and scary. In that sense, it’s understandable why some will recoil from even considering the possibility.

On the other hand, take a look at this video produced by someone who lives in the (Chinese) neighborhood so to speak. The Indian female news anchor expresses her views in a matter of fact manner that seems to be persuasive, or at least enough to pop the bubble of reflexive denial.

Gravitas: Wuhan Coronavirus: Will China profit from the outbreak?, World News | wionews.com

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by diamond2005

Wuhan to Shanghai - 839 km
Wuhan to Bejing - 1,152 km
Wuhan to NY - 12,033 km
Wuhan to Milan - 8,684 km
The Coronavirus started in Wuhan, yet there is no effect of it in nearby Bejing or Shanghai, but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.

It has reached every corner if the world, but the virus did not reach China’s capitol Beijing, and their economic Capitol Shanghai, located close to Wuhan.

Beijing is where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lockdown there.
Austrailia’a Home Minister, Britain’s Prime Minister, Spain’s PM’s wife, Canada’s PM’s wife, Prince Charles, among others, have contracted this virus but, NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY LEADER in China have tested positive for this virus.

This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.

Believe what you may!

I will believe the facts not this type of totally incorrect and irresponsible rumor. See #3 for facts. If anything, China is understating the real stats to hide the massive impact that this bug is having on their society.

[karostay]

I don't trust any government

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by karostay

I don't trust any government

Why not? I told you that they are here to help !!!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

I think the Chinese are lying. Bejing numbers in particular seem ... artificially low.

The reason I think they are lying is because the country is run, with an iron fist, by the Chinese Communist Party.

Talk about "dealing in facts often?" ... you should know better.

Seriously? I guess you misunderstood. The OP stated there were no cases in Beijing or Shanghai, I showed the "official" numbers. Are they a lie? Quite possibly. But the FACT is that there were hundreds of cases, at least, in those cities, NOT ZERO

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by karostay

I don't trust any government

Does that mean you think there's no difference between the US Government and the Chinese Communist Party which is basically the Chinese government?

Not saying you do .. just asking.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by eagles

Seriously? I guess you misunderstood. The OP stated there were no cases in Beijing or Shanghai, I showed the "official" numbers. Are they a lie? Quite possibly. But the FACT is that there were hundreds of cases, at least, in those cities, NOT ZERO

I'm getting totally irritated by your completely unreasonable call for the use of facts on this board. How can we ever provide understanding if we are limited to "real" facts as opposed to the "alternate" kind.

[Skunky1]

I don’t believe the authorities in the villages have been very forthcoming either. How many deaths have we actually had from coronavirus here in the villages?

[Footer]

As luck would have it, my mother-in-law who lives in Hubei was visiting my brother-in-law in Beijing for Chinese New Year (January 25). Arrived a week early. She was stuck there until a week ago. Didn't leave the small apartment for over 2 months. They really enforced social distancing and it was quite effective because very few people got sick in Beijing and numbers were lower than they could have been in Wuhan. Chinese leaders were in a panic about the virus. Official deaths were suppressed but Chinese citizens knew because there were more funeral urns purchased in Wuhan than reported deaths. There is no way the Chinese government was responsible for starting the virus. The propaganda effort extended to the severity and their response to the virus, which was covered up at the beginning.

[Andyb]

Bingo! Notice very few cases in Russia and North Korea, ummm, they happen to be staunch allies with China.
There is an article that I received by email that explains this, sadly it makes since. Not sure exactly what is happening, but there is something “fishy”.