Thank you for posting this link from a reliable source. When will people who have had natural Covid infection stop thinking they have better immunity than vaccinated people?

I don't know who the quack is at that Nebraska HMO where that article was posted, but he is obviously ignorant of actual studies conducted by the CDC, Cleveland Clinic, and NIH.

Explaining this as I would to a third grader, I would say "Johnny, do you see lots of articles in the news about covid reinfections, or do you see tons of reports about breakthrough infections of the fully vaccinated"

The reinfection rate found in most scientific studies is 1% or less. The CDC measured breakthrough cases in Los Angeles and found them to be 25% of total cases.

"Which number is bigger Johnny? 1% or 25%??"

The cohort of 75,149 previously infected resulted in 315 suspected reinfections were identified, with a cumulative incidence at 270 days of 0.8%

Rate and severity of suspected SARS-Cov-2 reinfection in a cohort of PCR-positive COVID-19 patients

Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare​.​

Reinfection with COVID-19 | CDC

Cleveland Clinic study

The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects.

Conclusions Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals | medRxiv

"Now Johnny, if you want to believe some Omaha quack over the heavyweights listed above, it is your right to remain completely misinformed."

Third grade teachers should be held to a higher standard.

Hopefully, Johnny would be bright enough to point out the first "study" does not include a control to compare to, the second statement is unqualified and unsupported, and the third quote is actually just a segment of the actual sentence:

The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated.

You don't need a control group to count the number of reinfections in a large cohort. Even Johnny knows that retrospective case studies do not have control groups.

2nd statement was made by CDC, I think they know more about it than you do.

3rd statement: SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects. Stands by itself, is there something you don't understand about almost zero?

Since you appear to think you know more about this than the scientists and doctors that made the statements I linked to, show us your studies and data.

Do you actually think that reinfections are common and occur at higher rates than breakthrough cases? Don't believe natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccines? That's absurd, all the data says the opposite.

What about if you currently work at SWA and are MANDATED to be vaccinated. What if you are a healthy 35 year old pilot with 30 years of flying left and your employment is predicated on passing a FAA Medical Exam every 6 months for the next 30 years. If the Covid vaccine creates any side effects that risk that employment in the next 30 years would you err on the side of your own natural immune system. Or have something injected into your body that comes with NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER. That's a BIG question for a healthy 35 year old pilot with multimillion in career earning to gamble on. Once again, a 35 year old pilot will retire at 65 with over $4,000,000 in their 401k. And you expect them to bet it all on black at the roulette table.

Here's an article by the NIH from this year. You have to remember that the pandemic and related research is only two years old. They just need to keep testing for Abs of those who have recovered from Covid going forward to get more comprehensive data.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

It was weather.

...And the battle of the statistics continues.

As Mark Twain once said, "There are three kinds of untruths; lies, damned lies and statistics". As far as I am concerned statistics are the worst, because we can make them say virtually anything we want them to say.

Just another example that we are having the wrong debate. The REAL question is whether or not, in the end, the Supreme Court will decide that people have the right, or not, to decide on their own whether or not a vaccination is right for them.

despite anything that's being said, so many of you refuse to budge from the "it's the mandates". Spirit had a similar situation a couple of months ago when they had to cancel many flights. Both Spirit and Southwest don't use hubs....so there's a cascade effect. If there's been "numerous pictures" then they are of the same thing. if you actually do some research, there was one photo in someone's tweet. Per Snopes: We reached out to Benny Johnson (who tweeted the photo) for more information to help authenticate the image but did not receive a response. For all of these reasons, on Oct. 14, we changed the rating from “Research In Progress” to “Unproven.”

as for sheep, I know of no bigger sheep than those who take everything they here from Fox News or the like as fact without verifying anything.

I hear that there are not that many Fox watchers here.

You took this statement:

"The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated."

But you only posted this:

"The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects."

That's quite an interesting way to make an argument.

Since you mention the CDC, here's an article from their website dated Aug 6, 2021 (this article is two months more recent than yours).

"In today’s MMWR, a study of COVID-19 infections in Kentucky among people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."



New CDC Study: Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

According to Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease doctor from Johns Hopkins University, regarding COVID-19 reinfections. “It's not a very common thing - at least - and it will get higher as we get further out. But right now, it's probably less than 1%.”

Sorry, but vaccinated breakthrough cases are occurring at a higher rate than 1%.

Except for a single isolated study in Kentucky, the vast majority of studies worldwide indicate that the likelihood of reinfection is lower than the likelihood of breakthrough cases in vaccinated individuals.

Most “reports” touting the higher effectiveness of the vaccines, are based on models, not actual cases.